Olivia, i understand you're not trying to pick an argument. I am no stranger to the belief that marriage is not all rosy and there will be times in it that would be terribly difficult to live with your partner. I consider a successful marriage by quality of course and not quantity, for a marriage could be dead while the couple live out their lives just for the sake of it or for a particular reason known to them.

As for infidelity, there is always forgiveness as you have said and i would forgive my partner if they were ever in that position and were truly sorry.

If neither party is willing to give time, effort, emotion, patience, dedication and not forgetting love, then they must be certain that the marriage is most likely going to fail or end at some point.

I do agree that marriage in constnat compromise on both parties and both shoould realise that they no longer live for themselves alone but for their partners as well. Marrige does require constant work and attention to keep it alive and the flames burning or else it will slowly but surely wither away.

I do sympathise with all of you who had to go through the heartache or rather, the relief of getting divorced :) However, I still hold the views that if a marriage ends in divorce it has failed, even if they remain together but unhappilly (for the sake of the kids). I would consider divorce only in the event of infidelity.

I'm currently munching on some fruits (an orange and a banana)to get some vitamins into me

pamw, i hope it all works out for you in the end.

Nice to hear, Rosy

IMHO, i think the society we live in today; career pursuits and the maybe bad experiences of others have given many people a stringent view on relationships and marriage.

I woke up on friday morning the first signs of a cold, my throat was beginning to get sore, a bit feverish and my eyes hurt. Today, i woke up feeling like s**t, i ache all over. I wonder why i bothered coming in today!

Anyone feeling remotely like this?

I understand all those who neither wish to get married nor have children. Personall, i love kids and cannot imagine myself not getting married or having children. Call me old fashion but i think some part of me will be never be fulfilled if that does not happen.

Thanks guys for all your replies.

I'm a bit mellow this morning. The weather's getting to me.

I know some might saw a PhD is meant to be hard work. I know that and i am not one to shy away from hard work. My supervisor tells me atimes that he is demanding and would will demand quality work, but i think he prides himself in this and gets unreasonable.

Sorry guys, i am not one to rant but i just have to let it out. I had a meeting with my industrial supervisor this afternoon. He basically told me i wasn't pulling my weight, that i cannot do a PhD by doing just 9-5, that it'll take me 8 years if i did that, which i agreed with but he can't just assume i do not work when i get home. Oh, he also said he does not mind me staying at work all day to get work done.

First of all, he knows i can't do that because after 5.45pm, there's no more transport home unless i take a taxi (which i cannot do everyday!). He's sooo pushy and wants results 24/7 and wants me to combine working in the production department, studying electromagnetic design, doing tests in the lab and producing a simulation for him, all within a week!

OK. I feel a lot better now but could do and welcome your opinions.

I've got three supervisors due to industrial partnership as well. My supervisors are the best in the department and i am privileged to be their student. Unfortunately they are retiring within the next 5 years so i might be one of the last students they take on.

@ mokey- probably, but not if they've got any sense.

Why should you expect them to do anything bad as retaliation? They were clearly in the wrong.

I hope you meet the deadline, jojo