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Viva on Friday and found major mistake
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Take a step back and breathe.

Yes, this is not an great situation, and ideally it is an error that should have been picked up by whoever read your thesis. It probably reflects worse on your supervisor than it does on you.

Sense of perspective - you've misinterpreted one result out of several, and written a couple of pages of error out of 200+. It is a mistake, but it doesn't have to define your entire thesis.

Those with experience of vivas here can advise on how best to handle the situation (you are not the first person to have made (and spotted) and error prior to via and it is not an automatic reason to fail).

There is plenty to be angry about, but if you can try to defer dealing with that till afterwards and keep a cool head, that would be best. It is done now, and what will determine the outcome of your viva is how well you handle the problem. Calm consideration is likely to help more than defeatism or blame, though those are perfectly natural responses.

Non-uni based job post PhD
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Quote From Fled:
However, unfortunately it seems that aspiring academics being encouraged to simply produce quality research for its own benefit.


The cynic in me would go further and say that aspiring academics are being encouraged simply to produce lots of research, regardless of quality.

One of the reasons I decided to enquire about this job is that I knew that one of the post doc opportunities available to me sounded fine on paper but could well end up generating a lot of dubious papers in a short space of time to appease 'collaborators' who were mostly looking to boost their CVs. If I'm going to do post doc research, I want it to be good quality and purposeful, not just churning out stuff for the sake of it.

I think I need some breathing space from academia to reflect on how to be a good researcher without getting bogged down with the extraneous processes.

Rejected from conference in final year!
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Quote From Boo:

! I'm beginning to worry that the quality of my work is going downhill, and that not attending a conference in my final year will mean missing out on networking and potential job opportunities.


Rejection is always present in academia, even of good work. This is particularly the case when trying to submit papers. Two successes out of three ain't bad. It's important to distinguish between the quality of your *work* and how well you have sold it/communicated it e.g. perhaps your work is fine but you didn't do enough to convince the conference organisers of its relevance to their remit?

There's always a risk that any given abstract will be rejected, which is why sometimes people submit more than one or apply to different conferences. Lesson for next time. On the up side, you don't have spend time on conference prep/attendance that you could be spending on your thesis.

Conferences are not the only way to network (I'm not convinced they're the most effective way either), so if you don't get to network via a conference, find other ways instead.

Viva on Friday and found major mistake
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Quote From haventgotaclue:
Hi all,

I have reported something as significant in one of my stats which is clearly, oh very clearly not significant (evidently in my sleep deprived write up state I misread the table).


Is this one result the main/only major result of your thesis? Or is it one of many findings that you report and discuss?

All three degrees from SAME uni, BAD or OK??
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Quote From incognito:

As for the different perspectives argument, you can easily be exposed to different perspectives in the same institution: I had two supervisors during my undergrad years who held completely different views on issues.

Yes, this is a good point. If you are planning to carry over the same supervisor from Bachelors to Masters/PhD, that is when you would definitely need to seek additional input from others so that you didn't develop too narrow a focus or just become a clone of your supervisor.

Non-uni based job post PhD
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Thanks both. The job has some overlaps with the kind of things I've done in my PhD - the main issue is that it's more secondary research than primary, and I won't get to use some of the quantitative skills I've developed.

Quote From Fled:
I can tell you from an academic perspective it will give you a better optic on your field as you will see the inner workings "from the other side"...i.e. the implementation / operational side of policy. Not to mention all the other intangible skills you will pick up working in the office environment. You will be a better academic for it. In my field, its painfully obvious which academics have not worked a day in industry and it is to their determent.

See, this is something I feel *should* be the case. It *should* be seen as valuable to have these other kind of experiences. I'm just not sure if it will be, particularly as it's likely to be clear that at this stage I actively chose not to pursue a traditional post doc as the first thing post PhD.

Non-uni based job post PhD
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Thanks both. The job has some overlaps with the kind of things I've done in my PhD - the main issue is that it's more secondary research than primary, and I won't get to use some of the quantitative skills I've developed.

Quote From Fled:
I can tell you from an academic perspective it will give you a better optic on your field as you will see the inner workings "from the other side"...i.e. the implementation / operational side of policy. Not to mention all the other intangible skills you will pick up working in the office environment. You will be a better academic for it. In my field, its painfully obvious which academics have not worked a day in industry and it is to their determent.

See, this is something I feel *should* be the case. It *should* be seen as valuable to have these other kind of experiences. I'm just not sure if it will be, particularly as it's likely to be clear that at this stage I actively chose not to pursue a traditional post doc as the first thing post PhD.

All three degrees from SAME uni, BAD or OK??
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There are good reasons for a person to have 2-3 degrees from the same uni. These may include that uni being top class for that particular subject, or personal circumstances of the candidate meaning that relocating may be problematic. There can be bad reasons too, though, such as a candidate being unadventurous/unwilling to get out of their comfort zone, or unlikely to be accepted at another university.

So I think it basically comes down to you and what your reasoning is, and whether you could 'defend' that should you need to. There is no harm in sticking with a good formula if you believe you have hit on one, but you should be aware that you might lose out a little in terms of being exposed to the different perspectives you might get elsewhere if you had moved on. But this can be, to some degree, remedied by getting out of one's comfort zone e.g. going to conferences and lectures at other organisations.

Essentially, the extent to which it's a potential problem (if at all) is in partly in your hands with regard to how to ensure you don't get too stale or narrow in your focus.

UK fertility rates since circa. 1850?
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It was this document I was thinking of:


That had data going back to 1850 (on the 'live births') tab. I tried posting a direct link to the page hosting it, but every time I did my post came up blank - there was a hashtag in the URL and I think it borked the forums's code or something.

Not sure that's what your friend wanted though!

[Edited to add - I've just realised, you probably wanted births per woman, not births overall. So I've probably not actually directed you to the right thing, sorry!]

Non-uni based job post PhD
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I was just wondering if anyone had any experience of taking a non-university job after they finish their PhD and then successfully returning to university based research afterwards?

I've been offered a job at a government agency/quango type place, which involves appraising research and bringing it together to develop policy. It's a well paid role, great location, some scope to learn stuff and network, apply some of my existing skills without being overburdened with new stuff. It would give me a bit of post-PhD recovery time in which to knock out some thesis-related papers, and I might even get a paper or two related to the job out. It could well give me some head space to make sure that the next move I make is the right one, or alternatively the time to put a decent fellowship application together without as much stress as if I was on a short term post doc contract.

But.... I just have this niggling doubt that if my first role after the PhD is not a university based post doc that it'll be frowned upon for subsequent post-doc opportunities/fellowships. I'm fortunate to be in a field where there are actually a decent number of jobs (and growing) and I'm pretty confident that if I went straight for a post doc now I'd get one. But for various personal reasons it might work best to take this other job and then return to the fray 12-18 months down the line when various circumstances are more suited to it. I just don't know how it would be perceived though.

In reality the kind of work I would be doing would not be conceptually that far removed from my PhD work, it just wouldn't involve primary research. It *shouldn't* count against me. But I can imagine that a more traditional academic prospective employer might not view it that way.

Any advice?

New forum design - what do you think? Any problems?
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Just had an odd experience. Wrote a post that contained a URL and when I hit submit, a post appeared with my name, which appeared to have no content. I tried editing it several times to no avail, and only succeeded in getting anything to come up when I removed part of the URL which contained a hashtag in it. Are hashtags blocked?

UK fertility rates since circa. 1850?
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Try here (Data tables tab->vital statistics):
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/taxonomy/index.html?nscl=Births+and+Fertility

Moving from a Russell Group to Ex-Poly
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I had a mentor who was very much of the view that "funding begets funding" (his words). Perhaps not so relevant for PhD level funding, but in biomedical sciences I've heard research councils freely admit that if a candidate is funded by them for, say, a junior fellowship, they are considerably more likely to be successful if applying for an intermediate or senior one subsequently.

It may vary from field to field. You rightly point out other features that may take priority. But it probably does come into play if all the other factors are fairly equal between two candidates.

Please recommend good books on the PhD and Research process
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Though before you spend a lot of money on books, check whether
1. the uni does training courses to support you with these things and
2. If the careers departments holds copies of said books.

Moving from a Russell Group to Ex-Poly
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And your PhD topic is codebreaking? ;)

Well, "London's global university" certainly has a very good reputation and is at the top end of the Russell Group rankings. I know less about N...umbr.ia. The importance of the difference may depend on the subject area. Also whether the uni/department has good working relationships with other institutes.

All I would say is that there is zero correlation between university prestige and how you will be treated as a PhD student. I've had PhD experience at two different Russell Group unis. At one I (and others) experienced bullying and decided to leave. At the other (less high profile) I have been treated better though not necessarily received much supervision. I'd say my experiences on both occasions were far more shaped by the department/supervisors rather than the uni itself.

I didn't mention earlier, but funding itself has currency on one's CV. If you are shown to have attracted funding at one stage in your career, you are more likely to attract it at your next stage. That might be unfair but it can be considered an endorsement of your work/your profile as a researcher.