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Drinking behaviour survey
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I don't find drink a problem.

I drink, I get drunk, I fall over, hic!!! No problem!!!

Ian

MRes after MSc ???
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Wilhelm, I think you have your heart set and your mind made up on working for the MRes research group at the other Uni. regardless of whether or not there's the certainty of a PhD after the MRes. For me to consider this route ahead of the funded PhD at your current Uni., this group would have to offer something really special. Just make sure when you start the MRes, you look identifying a suitable project this second group has to offer. You may wish to enquire what they are looking at as regards potential projects a year hence as they'll be looking to start applying for funding in the near future.

To follow up on Pineapple30's remarks, I also have two MScs prior to my PhD though with a gap of five years in the real world between the second masters and PhD. In my case, I can't really say if two masters helped or hindered. The first masters (Computing) I have never used - I honestly thought due to ill health I was going to fail it, hence I started the second masters. The second masters (Quality, supplementing my Materials Engineering first degree) proved to be of more value as regards experimental methods and statistical analysis.

I will comment, however, that there were one or two real world interviews where my qualifications were negatively queried (i.e. professional student - which I never considered myself as, overqualified, will be off somewhere better at the first opportunity). So there is that possibility, but it all depends upon the person and why they have obtained those qualifications.

Hope that helps,

Ian

PhD Meltdown
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Many of us have this feeling of the end being in sight, in that we think we have a workable document together. Then comes the supervisor's red pen and suddenly we're seemingly months away when the dreaded red pen strikes. What was going to be late September / early October for me became mid-December.

You could be misreading your supervisor's intent here, however, in my case my supervisor would not recommend submission until he was 99% sure the candidate would get through viva with at worst minor corrections. I had a fairly straight forward PhD process, with a set-up that readily produced data (running joke was it printed off it's own papers). This lulled me into a false sense of security as I hit write-up.

Introduction, Methodology and Results was straight forward. Two to three drafts of each, okay so far. However, academic writing was different to anything I'd done before. Discussion took a gut wrenching five months as I had the learn the finer points of being concise and succinct in my writing style (explaining my findings in a clear manner in as few words as possible). Four drafts later, I was finally there - er, no!!! Conclusions took a month and a further three drafts and the two page Further Work a mind boggling two weeks. That said, all the work was worth it come viva - result: minor corrections.

If your supervisor is doing a decent job, the effort will be all worth it. I would be more concerned if your scripts were being ignored and if he's an experienced supervisor, these 'aggressive' remarks will be focussing your mind on the criticisms an external examiner might make. The later sections especially are your work and that work is what will make or break your PhD.

Meet and talk to him about how you feel. He'll have been there himself as a student, seeing and hearing it all before. He'll probably tell you the same as I'm telling you above.

Ian

MRes after MSc ???
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Is the above MRes with transfer to PhD if you do well enough at the 1 year / 18 month point?

If so, then that's normal procedure at a lot of Unis. and I wouldn't worry too much. Go for the MRes with transfer to PhD at the leading institution if that is what you want to do.

If it is just an MRes without transfer, then I would look at the funded PhD at your own Uni. first before making a hasty decision. Having two masters on your CV close together makes you look like a professional or continuous student. I overhead a conversation during my own PhD that my supervisor was in the business of turning down applications from people he considered in this category.

Ian

Depressed at the final hurdle
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He's the one with the problems by the sounds of it. Finish up as quickly as possible, do what you've got to do to get out of there and as Barramack say, move on.

Ian

How many published papers before the viva?
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Ian did this get you a job? If you don't mind me asking?


Sorry, I didn't get to finish the first post (needed elsehwere).

I did two post-docs, but ultimately the extra publications didn't help me. This was partially due to the second post-doc being a horror (I've already talked about that plenty on here - as a warning to others) and personal family circumstances (job hunting obviously had to be put to one side).

However, the jist is that improving your publication record in general improve your prospects in looking for further research positions once your PhD ends. So if you can put out a couple of papers during your PhD and / or perhaps do some more afterwards from your PhD and related material, your CV looks all the more impressive compared to other candidates when competing for those much in demand positions.

Ian

How many published papers before the viva?
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I had two before viva and one in the pipeline, though the actual writing was done by my primary supervisor. Having a couple of papers out of your PhD work is about normal (1 to 3).

I produced a further six after viva (aim was to enhance my publication record), authoring these myself with my primary supervisor listed as a co-author in all cases and my predecessor as a co-author on two. A book chapter also resulted from the work with myself as first author, my supervisor as second author and another predecessor plus another researcher listed as co-authors. There's also another free distribution document that never went to press but is available on download.

So two to three is okay, but look to publish more once viva is complete if possible.

Ian

Communication Breakdown!
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More importantly, is funding from your third sector funder okay?

I'm sorry to ask this, but the change in personnel is something that would concern me as regards funding.

Ian

The one that got away
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Would careful use of correction fluid or a Tipp-Ex strip not do the job?


Tippex out very carefully and ensure said footnote is not in PDF version for electronic repository.

I can't say very much as I bound the wrong version of my thesis for the library copy (i.e. the uncorrected version that I was viva-ed on), a mistake I only realised after it had been submitted. No-one will ever look at it so I basically don't care.

The electronic repository one which people do look at is the correct(ed) version though.

Ian

Where to live in Newcastle
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Tynemouth is a good option, but supply is limited, parking can be difficult, and it isnt quiet in the summer or on the high street. Much of what you will see advertised for Tynemouth is in fact North Shields, which is different from Tynemouth. Whitley Bay has plenty of options for accomodation but you need to be careful which street you go for (some lively bars).

Parking in Newcastle is mostly expensive, so either live in Newcastle and walk, or live out of the city centre and use public transport. The Metro operator do season tickets and student discounts.


Agree about Tynemouth as the cheaper accomodation is going to North Shields, plus Tynemouth itself consists of expensive properties. In Whitley Bay, avoid South Parade as that's where the bars are (though trade there has crashed now - the bars there are a bit naff to be honest). Whitley Road and Park View also have bars, but that's also the main shopping area.

Whitley Bay and Tynemouth are also on the Metro, with half an hour travel time into Newcastle.

Although some students do have digs in Whitley Bay, I personally would aim closer in and the High Heaton area should be okay where my mate stayed (10 minutes bus, 20 minutes walk to Northumbria).

Ian

PhD: Stick or Twist
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Book your flight tickets and get yourself on the plane mate. From the looks of it, you could actually make a career out of the cricket and if I'd been able to do sport to that level then that choice would have been a no brainer for me.

This PhD opportunity will no doubt lapse (you appear to be on a 1+3 arrangement at a guess - one year Masters followed by PhD), but you don't seem in the right frame of mind with the break-up to proceed for now. If you start now and struggle because of your personal problems, you could find yourself trying to play catch-up fairly quickly or even drifting off and quitting.

You're 22 years old (no age at all) so even if you have to wait a couple of years for another chance of a funded PhD, better to have a go at your PhD with your head in the right place in a couple of years rather than start now and find yourself struggling.

I think EPSRC will be used to people calling it a day after the Masters year and probably coming back a few later when ready (though obviously on a new and different studentship). You could always phone / e-mail them and ask the pertinent questions if you wish.

With a lot of funded PhDs, the potential supervisor has the project and funding already in place. It will thus be a case of convincing the supervisor you're the right person for the position in interview.

Ian

PhD data ownership?
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Thank you for your reply, and for the link you posted; it is very helpful indeed!
I completely agree that leaving on good terms and avoiding the battle is the right way to go. I have been trying to do just that for a while, and the situation is still ongoing so I am not sure it will be successful, but I certainly hope so! Unfortunately since changing supervisors, my old supervisor is determined to block me from anything and everything, even though I have made it very clear that he is to remain on all of my papers as the lead author, and will be acknowledged in the thesis, etc, and that I appreciate the help he gave me and give him full credit for his support and ideas. Unfortunately he doesn't seem happy with it, and doesn't want me to finish which I cannot do unless he releases my data, hence my question. Now at least I have something to go by when I talk to the department again about this issue, so many thanks for your help! :)


Do you not have back-up copies of your data?

Is he arguing that he has the right to withhold permission for you to use the data even if you have back-ups?

Check your terms and conditions very carefully.


Ian

A Dr PhD yet jobless
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I hope some of those profs whom securing their own jobs by abusing PhDs and Postdocs read this thread...


Agreed, the image of the 'PhD' and post-doc and the reality are very, very different. Are we training our next generation of specialists in our respective fields or are we using the research council funding system to hire dogsbodies on a temporary basis so a pet project can be pushed through on the cheap?

Ian

I want to quit my PhD. Is it in my institution's interests to award me an Mphil?
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Hi, sorry to hear about your situation.

In order to be awarded an Mphil, you will still need to have some sort of original contribution to knowledge. In the sciences, this is normally considered to be one data chapter (a PhD would have 3 data chapters). A Mphil thesis is usually about 30,000 words, but this will vary.

I think you should discuss this with your supervisor, or if you would prefer, your head of year or an academic that provides pastoral care.


MPhil doesn't necessarily mean you have to make an original contribution to knowledge, but it would help. Some MPhils are about simply applying current knowledge or techniques to a situation (i.e. teaching company knowledge transfer scheme between industry and academia) and if you come across something very significantly new then you're upgraded to PhD.

Returning to the OP, it appears you've given it every chance. However, at 9 months you'll be lucky to have collected any significant data to put into an MPhil. For an MPhil, I'd probably be looking at 18 months minimum with at least one discussable set of quality data (a completed study) that would survive viva scrutiny. You're only 9 months in and still significant work to even get to MPhil, so it is perhaps better after trying to stick it out to call it a day and withdraw. The situation may not be worth your wellbeing.

I've been in a department exactly as you describe for my second post-doc where the Prof. made it clear on me starting the job he regretted employing me (but I'd signed the contract). One hellish year followed, followed by a year on the dole without references from said Prof.

However, it's also better to look for work in your current situation rather than go on the dole (i.e. economically active). If you happen to reach MPhil standard, all well and good. If not and a decent job comes up, then jump ship and f**k 'em!!!

Ian

A Dr PhD yet jobless
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I spent a year unemployed after my second post-doc. I did finally find a job outside academia and have been in that job for a few years now. It's not the perfect job, but the dole has the effect of simply being in a job, any job, a priority over targeting your ideal career.

1) He'll be off as soon as something better comes along.

2) The job will be too boring for him.

3) Overqualified / Uni. Uni. Uni. on my CV.

I've heard it all.

I would love to do something more in line with what I did before, but I don't want to find myself back at square one and signing on again. As regards academia itself, although I miss the research work itself, one thing I don't miss is the inability to plan more than two to three years into the future financially (i.e. the normal length of contract in a research post).

Ian