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Conference paper expectations?!
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Quote From jayney:

I just thought the organisers would want the papers sometime before the conference so they could know what we are all going to say, and distribute them before our presentations/panel?  Or are they always happy simply with the abstract?


It seems the other presenters want to look at papers so they can finalise what they're going to say, but conference organisers don't normally want to know what people are saying - they're too busy organising the conference! Organisers can be quite happy with just the abstract - it gives the academics who are choosing the presenters enough information to be able to tell whether the topic is worthwhile and suitable for the conference, and it's not unusual to not have to submit a full paper. I think you're right in treating 15 Sep as a deadline. Better to be well prepared in any case.

Conference paper expectations?!
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This sounds very strange for a conference - especially an international one. I've presented at quite a few conferences, and they all have fixed deadlines. Obviously this is a lot more informal, and the presenters just want to get an idea of what each other is saying, hence you can submit a rather rough paper. If I were you, I'd assume that the conference papers will be made available - they normally do pop up on a website. So, rough draft for the other presenters, then rework into a good paper by the conference date.

Bad relationship with supervisor need reference.
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I think you should ask him for a reference, as I think it might look odd if you don't include a reference from your current supervisor - on the proviso that you're able to see it first. This may not be the case tho - when I was applying for PhDs, my referees had to send in references to the uni, without me seeing them first. If this is the case, then that's no good as he can say what he wants - but if it's a written reference that you get to see, I'd ask for one. Referees normally don't dwell on the negatives of a person - and if he does, you don't have to use it.

CONFUSED!
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Quote From Curiouscat:

I'm not a natural academic I just worked my arse off for my Masters and kinda fell into the PhD cause I did well. I'm having my second reeview in Oct and I'm going to get leathered. They already set me off after the first one which knocked my confidence and then felt guilty and tried to pick me up. My main supervisor has his own agendas and gives me loads of his work to do on the first yr and at the review sat back silently while I got taken apart. It really frustrating and as result my research suffered- Im at a point mow where I need to do massive catching up and I don't know if its possible at this late stage. My research topic has gone to dust - can't find a suitable gap and thing I'm flogging a dead horse with it....
...  (laughing at myself now for crying but its soul destroying- Im a good worker generally its all just sunk on me).


Don't cry! That'll just make you feel worse! Or ok, have a cry, so you can get it out of your system, then go for a walk, call a friend, go shopping - do something to reorient yourself. Talk to your supervisor about the review and work out a plan. Work out what you'll have done by Oct, and have plans for your next year - this will show the reviewers that you've done some work and know how to go forward. Your sup doesn't sound very supportive! And it also sounds hard with a co-sup who doesn't get on with the main one. But talk to them both about the review and how they can help you prepare, and face the reviewers. And can you say no to doing his work? Or at least make it so that you do his work after you've done yours?

And I think there are very few natural academics - there are some geniuses out there, but for most of us, I think, it's just sheer bloody hard work. And bluff! I've found that if I work hard enough, this overcomes any spark of brilliance I may be lacking!

Now, go and do something nice for yourself, come back to the PhD tomorrow, and then start a list of work to do and topics to discuss with your sup.

CONFUSED!
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Hi Curiouscat

Yes, most of us have felt like you're feeling I think. You need to talk to your supervisors - they'd be used to students feeling unmotivated and a bit lost, so you need to have a chat to get you back on track. It sounds to me like you need a bit more structure to your studies - and your life. Do you have a workplan? Have you worked out small, achievable goals that you can meet? This will help to focus you and also give you a sense of achievement, which in turn, further motivates. As lots of others have said on other posts, make a list of what you need to do, and then cross off each task as it's done. Build in rewards. And plan to have a social life, so when you're out, or relaxing, you can do that and not feel guilty. Don't run away - this will just make you feel worse! Once you work out a plan and start working towards it, you'll feel better.

10 months to go, what keeps 'you' going in the last year?
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Hey Bilbo, sorry to hear you've been sick. It sounds like your work is going well though, and yep, we're all coping with parts being incredibly slow going. We'll get there!

10 months to go, what keeps 'you' going in the last year?
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Hello all

Well, I've just returned from a 4 day international conference (which was in my home country, so no nice overseas trips for me!). I gave a paper, which generated quite a good amount of interest, met people and discussed some collaborative work and visits, and had lunch with two of the world's experts in my area and we discussed my thesis. Wow!! They were really interested, gave great feedback and think my work is worthwhile. So, am on a definite high and raring to go!!

This, of course, has done nothing for my word count, but has been invaluable. Hope everyone else is also motivated at the moment!

And I'm now down to 7 months...

Looking for tips from anyone else working remotely from their college?
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I too work from home, and find the major problem is isolation. But if you're going in to uni a couple of days a week, you should be OK. But also make time to see other people/do other things. I go to the gym most days, to make sure I get rid of the cricks from studying, and also as it's good to do classes with people.

And I agree with the others - separate space for work, routine etc. Enjoy!

lit review length
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It depends on comparable theses in your discipline, but in mine, also in social sciences, 60,000 words would be way too long. I also had a really long lit review, and am splitting it into two chapters, one focusing on context, and the other a really targeted, concise lit review which I think will be about 15,000 words. Maybe you need to think about restructuring?

Published in new peer-reviewed open access online journal: something to celebrate?
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Journals are internationally ranked, and the ranking might be listed on your faculty's website. I'm new to this publishing biz myself, but from what I understand, there are three tiers. The first and most prestigious journals in the first tier are internationally renowned, and it takes a good couple of years from submitting to publishing. Tiers 2 and three are less prestigious, but still acclaimed. And then there's the rest which don't make it onto the list, which can still include credible academic journals, and are likely to consist of domestic journals. And then I think online journals would be below this level...so congratulations on your publication, next is to aim for the next level up!

Help! Can't decide between two studentships
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I think I'd also go for option B. You need to deceide what will work best for your PhD. If you can draw on your work experience and have a good supervisor lined up, this sounds more promising than starting a PhD where you know less and don't know your supervisor. Being some place you like less than other places isn't also a bad thing - it can motivate you to do the PhD and get out of there - a long as you don't think you'd really hate it and be depressed.

Considering quitting...
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Quote From bonzo:

Endph_Sien - get real man! There is absolutely no compulsion for you to pay back the funding and don't even think of offering it back!


I agree with Bonzo. You will have earned the money - you will have worked and been paid - so don't pay it back. If you were taking the money for doing nothing (or snorting coke as Bonzo says!) that'd be different, but if you work, you deserve to get paid. Keep what you earn.

No motivation to complete PhD
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Good luck at the drs Fred. Hopefully even taking this first step will make you feel better, then you can work out a whole range of strategies to get you back on track. And if you need to take an extra year to do your PhD, well, that's fine too. Don't worry about that now.

No motivation to complete PhD
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Are you really a year behind with your reading? If this was a major problem, wouldn't your supervisors have noticed by now? Bilbo's right - talk to them. And go and see your doctor - those records remain confidential and your employer doesn't need to know. If you need to take time off work to see a dr, do it. We all go to dr and don't tell the boss why!

See a counsellor too, to get some support and professional help. Analysing data can be overwhelming, you need to have a plan to do your work. Break it down into manageable chunks, do a little bit at a time - you'll get it done! Don't see it as one huge task where you don't know where to start, see it as a lot of smaller projects that you're going to work through.

Go and get some professional help. It sounds like you're really motivated and want to work, you just need a bit of help right now. Look after yourself, good luck.

Considering quitting...
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Can I also just say, I can't understand people doing a PhD for the money. What money??!!? Sure, it's more than unemployment benefits, but where I am, it's not even minimum wage! By the time someone has the quals/intelligence to do a PhD, they could earn more doing anything else. The money argument has me beat...although maybe other countries provide more funding...