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Benefits forpart time PhD
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I'm 99% positive that council tax exemption is only for full time students.

Are there any published ratios of applicants per PhD?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2011/mar/18/career-science-studentship-phd-application

Judging by this, and what I'm hearing from my own university, the numbers of applicants are much higher than the OP suggests because both overall number of applicants has rocketed thanks to the recession and there are fewer funded places. My suspicion is that numbers will be higher for projects that are already defined as it's more like a standard job application, than those where the applicant has to propose a project themselves and work with a prospective supervisor.

How many 'Accredited Doctoral training Centres' in the UK?
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I'm guessing from the number that this is the ESRC (economic and social research council) DTCs - if so the list is here (note it's more than 21 universities as most are in consortia):
http://www.esrc.ac.uk/funding-and-guidance/guidance/postgraduates/doctoral-training-centres.aspx
Other research councils I think are also looking at concentrating funded PhDs in a smaller group of DTCs like the EPSRC do already.
Other universities can still offer PhDs in those academic areas but the training they offer was not considered strong enough to merit these research councils funding students there.

The ESRC decision has been very controversial, as it's cut out pretty much all post 92 universities along with some pre 92 ones from funding, and people say that it will be very hard for such universities to gain recognition in the future because they will have had 5 years with no institutional requirement to fund good social science research methods training, and in these straitened times, that means they probably would cut it.

trust in rankings
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I think the Financial Times do a specific ranking looking at MBAs - that might be helpful as it's specifically looking at postgraduate teaching even if it's not the precise course you've applied for. I'd ignore the undergraduate newspaper rankings as much of their basis e.g. A-level points scores is irrelevant to you. You could also look at the RAE results to get an idea who is rated on research grounds. www.rae.ac.uk

The places that are usually deemed the best aren't on your list, but I will say that I don't think management is a particular strength of Sussex and I would imagine several of the others like Durham, Birmingham or Sheffield are likely to be stronger.

Used & Abused - My Name Is Mud...
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Quote From Mud:

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Bewildered,

I mentioned the whole story in my first post, and don't believe I have suggested anything other than the facts as they are. She has quoted from my Form 6/Literature review/Dissertation verbatim...surely this is plagiarism? She used my words, but she will be seen as the author. Were I to submit a journal article/thesis using 'my own' words, I would be accused of plagiarism as TURNITIN would pick out her article.

I didn't just do the literature review. I was involved with the planning, the evaluation of the research and gave advice throughout. We then (2nd supervisor, another PhD student and I) presented a paper at a conference, which we had all contributed to. A representative from the journal approached the 2nd supervisor due to this paper we presented.

I am meeting with a respected academic on Monday to clarify.

Sincere regards,

Mud


I'd check your contract. You might not, if employed as a research assistant, hold the copyright on work done for the project. Certainly, when I have been employed on that basis and written background scoping papers for a project, the PI has then had the right to use that work. That is what I was employed to do - provide research assistance. A nice one gave me a footnote acknowledgement as you describe has been done here (to be fair you can't cite unpublished stuff in some journals so it was the only thing they could do), another guy made no acknowledgement whatsoever. As you say the other PhD student was listed as a co-author, was his/her contribution to the paper on a different scale to yours? I wonder whether it's a question of you not having made sufficient contribution to meet your subject's guidelines on co-authorship? I know sociology for example has some fairly strict ones to avoid what they see as the problems of the 'everyone with the remotest connection to it' co-authorship approach in the sciences. You need to make sure that you are on very safe ground before you try to cause significant damage to someone else's career, otherwise it tends to backfire unpleasantly.

Advice for if your supervisor doesn't think highly of you
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Have you thought about going to a careers advisor? I wonder if there might be related jobs that would still be in that area but fit better to your skill set. Could you arrange some work shadowing at a firm doing this type of work to get a clearer idea of what it's really like and whether some roles would suit you better than others? It does sound like this advisor is someone with your best interests at heart from how you describe it even if the message is unwelcome. I think if you've struggled up to this point moving straight into a PhD programme (if you could get a place) is probably a recipe for unhappiness.

Two Master Degrees = PhD
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I'd agree it's overkill (and something that might suggest eternal student to employers) unless it was something like a research methods training programme, which might strengthen a phD application. I'd get advice from lecturers on this.

Used & Abused - My Name Is Mud...
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Quote From Mud:

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One thing that's bothering me is that she has mentioned me in the first page 'footnote', that I had supplied part of the literature review. However, where she has cut and paste my words verbatim, she hasn't put them in speech marks and I haven't been cited as authoring those words...whichever way I look at it, it looks like plagiarism to me.

I'm not sure who would show allegiance to the 2nd supervisor...she only has a Masters (all due respect to anybody with a Masters) and seems to be a "Jack of all trades, master of none", flitting from one discipline to another.


So she has actually given you credit for the work in the footnote? If all you actually contributed was a portion of a literature review and this is credited, then I personally wouldn't have expected to be given co-authorship (unless the entire article was a literature review) and would have thought this was not as unreasonable of her as you are suggesting.

Disappointed...
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I did find that reading more really was important during my own MA, as the more I read the more I was able to see the different ways in which a question could be approached. I think the expectation is that you will be able to draw together more themes and prespectives in a MA essay than was expected in undergrad essays, if that makes sense.

Quitting - no teaching prospects?
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It is dependent on subject area (i.e. whether industrial experience is valued or not) but in most subjects, I think getting a fulltime (and even more permanent) post without a PhD has become very difficult for new entrants even at post 92 universities, who didn't use to be as fixated on the PhD as the entry level qualification as pre-92s.

If you got the PhD and got a job (well assuming there are any jobs around) would you have to churn out publications? I think here the type of employer would be key. I think the government changes on fees, concentration of ersearch funding, doctoral funding etc are going to produce a divide between places that concentrate on the delivery of taught courses and those that still are research-led. So the amount of research expected might vary a lot more in the future between institutions. That's just my guess though.

Whats in it for the supervisor(s)?
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The benefits are more obvious in the sciences, where you do get an extra body in the lab. For others though, it's only worth taking on a strong unfunded student for career purposes as they definitely don't get any money for it. A weak student would be unattractive, as there's unlikely to be any publications, and a student who fails is a blot on a career.

Potential supervisor's influence over ESRC studentship decision
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Quote From prettypollicy:

Hi Bewildered,

Yes, my institution just found out recently that they are to be a DTC. So if I follow you, that means the decision is at least internal, so they will have a better idea of who I am/ what I can do than an entirely detached ESRC person, at least. I will ask today if they definitely have a studentship allocated in this department.

Regarding my references, I have contacted a former tutor from my BA who is happy to help and even offered to meet me to catch up on what I've been doing (to write an informed reference). The other referee, should I ask my potential supervisor/ former MA tutor or someone different (eg. work - puh, not likely! Or an institution where i did some other postgrad training, and 60 M credits)?

Thanks,

PP x


It should definitely be an academic. I'd actually just ask your prospective supervisor what s/he would recommend.

Potential supervisor's influence over ESRC studentship decision
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Hi,

As the ESRC has scrapped the open competition and concentrated funding in 21 doctoral training centres, your first step has to be to check whether your preferred university has actually got funded places available for a relevant pathway for your topic. Some studentships have been reserved by the ESRC for certain types of PhD eg advanced quants-based topics and language-based area studies, but other than that it seems to be up to the DTC to decide how they should be allocated. As there are fewer studentships available than ever before and concentrated in far fewer places, my gut feeling is that it will be pretty competitive. It will almost certainly not be up to your supervisor - normally even if they are on the committee, they would be expected to excuse themselves on grounds of conflicting interests for the discussion of your application. Their help comes in trying to make sure the proposal, references etc are as strong as they can be.

financial emergencies
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Does your university have a student financial advisor? If so, s/he might be worth contacting. Even if officially there are no emergency loans, there may be some discretionary funds plus the ALF someone has already mentioned. I also think you need to be absolutely up front with your supervisor about this problem. Lay it out in detail however embarassing it is. You need this money otherwise your fieldwork collapses - that's a threat to your PhD that needs dealing with. If your supervisor is hopeless, then is there someone with overall responsibility for research students in your department or school? I think you have to present it as a practical logistics problem. Not least because if you go without this stuff then presumably we're talking health and safety risks.
Do you know anyone who is into walking / climbing etc that you could potentially borrow anything from? Borrowing items of equipment might be an easier ask from comparative strangers than money.

too young to do a PhD?
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Sociology OP by any chance? Not my discipline but at joint research training events I used to get a lot of this from mature sociology PhD students. I think there are pros and cons of doing a PhD young (and I was late 20s but looked younger when I did mine so got hit from obth sides or benefitted alround depending on how you look at it). If you are younger, you tend to have fewer personal ties and so can be much more flexible. This helps with the networking, conference going and eventual ability to relocate for the few jobs on offer. The downside I think is that succeeding in a PhD means you have to be quite tenacious and resilient and able to take criticism, and those are things that I know personally I'm better at now than I was in my early 20s. But that doesn't mean all mature students are good at those things - and on your point on judgement I have known teenagers with great judgement and people in their 50s without any... Yes your age is probably an issue in how your interviewees respond to you but so would gender, ethnicity, disability and any number of different personal characteristics. Why not turn it into an interesting methodological discussion? But above all, don't let these people mess with your self-confidence - if they are really getting to you, then that's bullying and needs to be discussed with your supervisor.