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The nocturnal workers' thread
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Quote From Alpacalover:
but I feel guilty every time i'm not at my desk at the moment!!!


I take weekends off to be honest. I need the rest, and don't want to put myself under too much pressure to be producing PhD work every day.

And I did nothing useful this weekend. Apart from slept and was very very sick from Friday night until Saturday lunchtime. Feeling better now, but very weak. Have meeting with supervisor next week to discuss final changes to my thesis. So looking forward optimistically to doing more rewriting, and colouring in done suggestions with a highlighter pen!

But for now it's more rest for me. Hope everyone else gets on ok.

Anybody out there get a distinction in their MA?
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I got a distinction in my Masters, studying part-time over 2 years, and certainly didn't put in masses of extra time! I was a very minimal student I'm afraid, mainly for disability/illness reasons. But I focused carefully in what I studied, concentrating on those areas most important, and making sure to pick a dissertation topic that I could really get my teeth in.

It probably also helped that there was quite a lot of flexibility in the earlier essays I had to do, so I could bend them to suit my interests and existing experience. I was at or about distinction level throughout my essay marks, but the final dissertation obviously helped to swing things.

Good luck!

The nocturnal workers' thread
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Quote From teek:

On which note.... does anyone else feel that they're a little bit gleeful about the arrival of the darker nights? I seem to be delighted with the crisp air and minight skies just now, I wonder if it's just an extension of the nightly peace I've taken to.


Autumn is my favourite time of year. Darkening nights and crisp weather. Love it. I think it's partly a legacy of too many decades of school and university, with the new academic term always starting around now (at least on this side of the globe!) so it feels like a fresh start. But I also prefer the weather, and find it a big relief from the summer which can be too hot for me.

The nocturnal workers' thread
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Glad the interview went ok Alpacalover. Even if you don't go for the job it's good experience to have gone through the interview.

I'm not planning on being a nocturnal worker tonight because I managed a double whammy of editing last night and am very knocked out today - even more than usual! So plan to just sleep hopefully. Will be back the night after.

Good luck to everyeone else out there.

The nocturnal workers' thread
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Checking in. Trying to work through some more pages of thesis final draft feedback. So more comma adding, word removing etc. Just doing the easy changes for now. Will worry about the trickier issues later.

EDIT: And signing out an hour later. Got through another 25 or so pages of detailed edits, so that's good progress for now. Sleep time calls though.

10 months to go, what keeps 'you' going in the last year?
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Good luck with the remaining chapters Sue2604. I had my huge panic in August, when I lost a whole month due to the swine flu. Mega mega panic! Then I had a meeting with my supervisor in early September, we discussed what needs to be done to finish things off, and I felt much better. I have to have another meeting with him next week to discuss the final thesis changes, but expect to still feel chipper after then.

Meanwhile I'm pushing ahead with implementing his suggestions, starting with the easy then working to the bigger ones, but extremely slowly due to the long-term illness. Managed an hour tonight, which is all I could manage today. I'm lucky to manage 5 hours total a week. So 6 months is scarily close in that respect. But hoping to have things pretty much sorted by Christmas, though I expect to take until nearer March (my official deadline) to finally submit.

So panic averted I'm glad to say. Although seeing it's (in 10 minutes for me here in the UK) almost the start of another month does fill me with a moment of slight trepidation!

When should you have your research questions formulated?
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I had a clear proposal and sub-questions before starting, but they've evolved constantly throughout the PhD, including up to and beyond producing the full draft of my thesis. Partly this is due to supervisors saying 'so what' i.e. what is the point of what I've done, rather than it being an open-ended exploration. But it's also as they try to help me narrow down what exactly I've found out.

It might vary by discipline though, as well as by individual supervisor. When I was a science PhD student over a decade ago my research goals were much clearer from the onset. Now that I'm a humanities PhD student (almost finished), working on my own topic, it's much more open-ended and prone to constant redefinition.

I did it!!!! yipeeeeee (My Phd Viva story)
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So pleased for you Lara. Well done!

My viva was today, and ..... I did it :)
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Oh that's wonderful news. Huge congratulations!

Having trouble after honeymoon
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I frequently have to return to the PhD work after breaks due to illness. I find it hard to get into the swing of things too, but get myself up to speed by drawing up lots of to-do lists (everything I can think of doing, from small to big), then picking them off in the order of the least unappealing. That builds up my stamina/confidence, and gets me going again.

The nocturnal workers' thread
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Quote From Alpacalover:

well you seem pretty close to the finish line!? whens your submission date (or plan for..?)


End of March next year, but since I only have about 5 good hours a week the terror hit me like a ten-ton truck a month or two ago! But feeling more positive about finishing on time now and expect to manage it. That's my uni deadline - 6 years allowed for part-timers. My funding council would allow another year if I need it, but I want to finish ASAP.

Good luck to you and Sue2604, and anyone else plugging away now.

Oh and my cup of tea was lovely thanks :)

The nocturnal workers' thread
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Quote From Alpacalover:

Thanks Bilbo, been on course today and got nothing done yet, but had my tea, got a nice cuppa and going to get stuck in for couple of hours! Well, you're doing fantastic to be keeping going, i really admire you and others on here with such problems (if you don't mind me saying?). It seems so many students who face such difficulties are so determined, makes me feel pretty pathetic sometimes :$
I think evening/night time is my most productive really, when i have whole days at it, i struggle til late afternoon and then get a kick and get going! unfortunately i'm still running between writing and lab for the next few weeks so can't get the benefit out of my late night productivity! maybe best though as i really struggle to flip my clock back once I go! :p

right, into the last section I shall delve! good luck, hope you've had a productive day!?


Thanks for the kind words Alpacalover. I had to leave one full-time PhD because of the neurological disease 13 years ago. I'm not giving up on this second chance at a part-time one :)

Haven't done anything too useful today, though for the last 45 minutes I've been working through more thesis feedbacks, adding commas (seems the main task!), deleting stray words etc. I can only work on it for so long, so will be stopping soon, but I'm making slow but steady progress.

Think I might be due a cup of tea now though. Sounds like a nice idea! Good luck with your work tonight.

The nocturnal workers' thread
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Quote From Alpacalover:

Then its on to chapters 2/3....!! really good to feel at last like things are moving forward and I can say one chapter is complete!

You seem to have been up for alot of hours, make sure you get some sleep!


Excellent news re your chapter Alpacalover. Well done and good luck with moving on to 2 and 3!

As for me sleeping, it's all over the place at the moment. I sleep for up to 17 hours a day due to the neurological disease, and I sleep at strange times as well. I only woke up at about 6pm yesterday, so I hadn't been up for *that* long when I was doing something useful thesis-wise in the middle of the night. It's definitely my most productive time of day.

The nocturnal workers' thread
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Started going through final batch of detailed thesis feedback (can do the first half now - have a meeting to discuss second half in a couple of weeks). Starting by going through the easy fix suggestions which I don't quibble over, like grammar, or odd extra words, or punctuation. Crossing each one out with a yellow highlighter pen as I deal with it - nice to see progress! It's very tedious though and rather depressing turning page after page to see a pile of mega scribbles. So only doing a chapter's worth tonight. Will resume tomorrow.

Once all that's sorted out I plan to go through the thesis again and draw up a list of the more troublesome things, and start tackling them, while also tackling the higher-level issues. But will get there.

How do you know where you should be at??
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Could you try mind-mapping where you are in the literature? You said earlier that you're looking at a number of inter-linked areas. What about a separate mind-map for each one and an overall one showing how they link together? That might help formulate your ideas a bit.

But I wouldn't stress about progress/meetings at this stage. You're at the finding-your-feet stage.

EndNote course sounds good too, though I just bought the package (at student rates), and figured it out myself.