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corinne, I remember and I was delighted you passed. I've given them a deadline for submission. Honestly, I feel as though I have to supervise them!

By the way, they do have a full draft.

I tried that squaredot but I get to the meetings and they apologise for not having read the stuff and I was also told I shouldn't require meetings at this stage (but I was told that some time ago).

Glad to know I'm not alone but feel equally sorry for you!

A while back they returned 5 chapters but only gave feedback (a few lines) on one chapter. They indicated they had read them when I questioned it and I'm inclined to believe one but am less sure about the other. I've returned to these with fresh eyes and am happy with them, as far as I'm concerned they're complete and I'd submit these without further feedback. There are two chapters I'm not happy with and I know they'll not pass at this stage and I don't believe I'd have the ability to improve them without feedback. I think parts are clearly wrong but I lack the know how in order to attend to these. It was a set project and I've always been clear about my limitations throughout.

Throughout the PhD I've set and easily met all of my deadlines. My difficulty has always been trying to get my supervisors to commit to feedback. It took me 18 months from submitting a literature review to getting feedback (which was only a few lines). I have raised the subject but it gets pushed aside, ignored or I'm told I'll get it as soon as possible. Do your supervisors tell you, or give you a specific date, as to when to expect feedback? It is extremely frustrating to say the least. :-s:-s:-s I could easily be finished by now if it wasn't for them.

Having read KB's post I would add I was awarded funding based on an interview at a University and not through application to an external body.

Pick the one you would most enjoy and apply yourself to as this should show through in your marks which is the important thing. I have an MSc but it had a research methods module in it. I don't think this had an impact on my being offered a funded place but I do know the panel looked at my module grades.

I would think you should be entitled to some form of official documentation, otherwise you can never really be sure where you stand (even if told verbally). If I was in your shoes, I would approach your postgraduate tutor or the academic person who passes all the paperwork and find out where you stand or at least try to. Failing that, go to the Student Union to see if they can help or advise. Did you not stop the clock, or officially take time out during your illness? Did the University follow proper procedures throughout? Did the University give you fair warning that this would be a possibility and advise you how to try and avoid it? What is your relationship with your suprevisor or supervisors like? Perhaps they can advise, even if it's off the record. I never understand how things can reach such a stage without fair warning.

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You might like to read this thread, even if the circumstances are slightly different http://www.postgraduateforum.com/threadViewer.aspx?TID=14109

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:J6JkNZknnJEJ:imprs.mpifg.de/imprs_admission.asp+%22submit+phd+to+another+university%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a also have a look at this and the bit about academic advisors as perhaps this is a possibility but I don't know.

Did you get official documentation from your University saying you had failed your PhD or did they just terminate your registration?

I do know of someone who was registered to do a PhD at one university but APPEARED to complete the PhD at another university (but I could have picked it up the wrong way). I know nothing about what happened or the circumstances behind it though.

Hi,

What do you mean by you 'failed to submit'? Did you run over time to such an extent the University did not allow you to submit or what? I'm sorry but your post is a bit vague and lacking in detail.

Joyce,

If I was self-funding (I'm not and wouldn't dream of it) I would expect more involvement from my supervisors because the supervision would be coming from my pocket and I'd want, expect and deserve value for money. You have as much right to quality supervision as any other student. It horrifies me how some are treated...

phdbug, all the very best - I'm sure you'll do well.

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KB, basically, your body was under intense but focused pressure for a period of time (needed to get you through that period) and now you have a down period (not necessarily talking down in terms of mood) because your body has shifted to a completely different gear. This is your bodies way of reacting. Even if you are excited about your new post, it's a change and all change involves stress which takes its toll. Just take good care of yourself.

This should help answer question 1
http://www.postgraduateforum.com/threadViewer.aspx?TID=10400

In my experience and from reading many posts on here it is the norm to do an MSc before a PhD. You can go straight from undergrad to PhD but it's not the norm and can be more difficult to get funding for a PhD. Also many seem to think this is a massive jump in terms of academic ability and an MSc bridges this.