I think that's important Sneaks. Your supervisor is just one person but if more than person is telling you otherwise then you should take take heed and gain confidence from that.

Mac, you worked really hard on your PhD, seriously put the hours in close to submission, and so it was a PhD very well earned, in my opinion. It's always good to get the input of others who have went through the process and emerged on the other side.

Ross, please do not be hard on yourself. You've made your feelings clear to your supervisor and if they haven't taken that on board there's little you can do and besides you're not alone. I think you've shown integrity which is great but it's beyond your control and so try not to feel bad about it.

Mackem_Beefy, I get what you're saying but ideally supervisors should be guiding rather than doing.

None of my work has been heavily edited or edited come to that. It's just if I indicate I don't understand something (it was a pre-designed project) which thankfully is very rare, it's basically done for me. I think from their point it saves time but for me it's frustrating and not what 'learning' should be about. I do like to think I wouldn't do that if I was a supervisor but if I had their heavy workload who knows. Their lack of interest in developing me as a researcher and lack of interest in my future does make me feel like part of a sausage factory though!

No problem Ross. I suspect this may be relatively common and so while it is by no means ideal, and it's not how I'd have liked it, I can't force my supervisor to work in a way that I like / want. As long as you've tried your best, as I have, there's little else you can do. I feel a bit like part of a sausage factory, just going through the process so my supervisor can get credit for producing another PhD. I would like to have felt inspired by them, have learned from them etc but it wasn't to be... They haven't even expressed any interest in my future which I think is very sad...

All the best!

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Thanks. I wasn't sure how it worked and so it can be either way!

How many people on here have managed to get a viva date before they've actually submitted or did you have to wait until after you had submitted?

In this climate, if the job was a full-time permanent position that would get priority for me but only if the job was permanent and it was something I enjoyed.

I didn't go with bullet points but did but highlight the contribution to the field in the introduction and my supervisor thought this was great. Bilbo does make a good point though about why should the examiner read the rest of the thesis. However, for me, it should be a bit like the news, tell them what you intend to tell them, tell them it and then tell them what you have told them. Sneaks, you have to defend your thesis and live with it and so do what feels comfortable for you.

I hope you're OK Sneaks. Could you not find someone to do the teaching for you? If not, just try to remember that all this stuff will look good on your CV in the future while your PhD will be a thing of the past...

Chin up.