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Shall I quit my PhD before I start?
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In the real world, a PhD in any field says commitment and hard work. I would imagine museum jobs, teaching jobs, research organisation jobs (epsrc) would be possible careers. Maybe even government science council unesco UN heritage work?

You have to really really want it. If you do, go for it. Life's not just a destination but a journey.

Editing: how long?
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I had about 2 days after I finished my thesis to check it through before submitting. I passed the viva (minors) but with all the errors I spotted before my viva; with hindsight i would want 6 weeks.

I would take first two weeks off. Then read the thesis in paper print form cover to cover. Then spend a month fixing it.

A tired rant.
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Seriously well done for getting this far. Many would have quit a long time ago so your determination to finish is seriously impressive.

I'd take a few days break. Then write a list of what must be done and what can be dropped. Then chip away and cross it off.

Keep going and you will get there.

Let me get this straight - Dr title.
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Sounds good. What's the name of the book?

Heartbroken resubmission verdict
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Try to keep your relations with your supervisor as good as possible. Starting to move on from the verdict to getting stuck in to the corrections sounds really positive. Figures and chapter structure will be easy to fix. Will there be some more fundental stuff for that result? New/different analysis or further work? Do you need a second viva, or can you just resubmit?

Keep at it, you will be the better person for it, and it will be so good to get that closure.

Bibliography question
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My doctoral thesis used lower case van and ignored it. So van Strangelove under S. my references tried as best as possible to follow APA.

I also would treat letters with extra bits to come after standard letters.

What every you do, be consistent ;/)

Let me get this straight - Dr title.
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To add to the airplane dilemma, this pilot forum has some interesting discussion.


The limited evidence suggests passenger lists do not include title.

Also a pilot would ask for anyone with first aid/medical experience and invite them to come forward.

Dr's of ancient Egypt, stay seated - unless you know CPR...

Let me get this straight - Dr title.
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The Queen signs off as Elizabeth R, but she is majesty and queen to those that respect and recognise her. There is absolutely a role for humility, but also veneration.

A former teammate gained a doctorate and the title was used for official business. The team was genuinely thrilled that 'one of them' had become a dr. It was like an honour for the team. The business used to market it as 'having x MScs and y PhDs'.

In terms of professional doctorates, which are still fairly new and uncommon, advertising the qualification seems appropriate. 'What's that then, a DEng...'

So for me, part of my choice to use the title concerns wanting to make collegues proud and inspire others.

Let me get this straight - Dr title.
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Ian, thanks for the great posts and adding to the discussion. What are your veiws on professional doctorates like the DEng/EngD. This is more of an applied qualification, based in industry. Is the use of Dr Engineer still a no no in a relevant domain and setting?

Let me get this straight - Dr title.
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Lol, exactly!

Sub. 3.0GPA (Third Class Standing) Opportunities
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Having worked in industry for well over a decade, my experience is MBA is largely the preserve of middle management. Economics is the disipline of putting together cohesive arguments from fuzzy information and a masters in business is the course for deputy head teachers. Personally I would look at either a finance degree, or approach somewhere like the LBS with seed capital and form a start up business with some of their MBA students. It all boils down to whether you want to run a business or work in a business. Sounds to me like you are a captain. Have at it sailor!

Let me get this straight - Dr title.
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Strange as it sounds; all these points come up when you look at Phd etiquette online. Admittedly mostly in the US where they seem hugely egalitarian. Personally I will use the title, but also be mindful not to abuse it. I dont want people to think im all that. But equally I dont want to hide it like a dirty secret! Like many a student I feel it a reasonable reward for the monumental effort involved.

Sub. 3.0GPA (Third Class Standing) Opportunities
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MBAs have been in big demand during the economic downturn as city types brush up their qualifications. I'm sure that you can find a course, but it may not be your first choice. They cost a fortune though. Spend the £50k on a new business line and get your Honory Doc when you are a captain of industry ;-)
But don't let your scores hold you back. I just passed my doctoral viva and I have a 2:2. Sometimes the more 'colourful' candidates enrich a course and make good students. Good luck!

Let me get this straight - Dr title.
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If your have a PHD this confers the title Dr. Which you should not put on your email or business cards (either as Dr or PHD and most definitely not both!). In academia the title is redundant, in industry the title makes you pompous. But above all, in the mega rare instance someone needs a quick bit of CPR at 30,000 feet the MD takes exclusive entitlement of the title for all other occasions?. So why if all this is true, is there any point in the term 'doctorate' in a PHD?