ahh 30's women, they are heaven, experience and usually know what they want. i dont think it will be so bad to be 30, only 5 years and 4 weeks to go

you are right mrchipz, it won't be bad at all. But enjoy your age too. It is the age you will miss when you are in your 30s (not in a bad way, but because is easier to look back to your past then imagine your future, there is always something that could be better in the "past"). So, enjoy every minute of being in your 20s. That way you will be even more in peace with turning 30

LOL Piglet. I'm also 30 and still can't see the attraction of babies. Don't like it when people assume you're a careerist or consumerist just cos you don't want kids. I'm thinking of a TV programme I saw on Saturday (What Makes Us Human); great programme, except for the presenter's summing up when he suggested women who were "commiting genetic suicide" were doing it out of a desire not to miss out on the consumer/career lifestyle. Nope, just don't want the buggers.

juno, I am 32 now, until last year I didn't feel anything about wanting babies, being a mother etc. I had no instinct, not even a tiny bit. Last year I suddenly felt the urge to have a baby and blamed my biological clock. Also my father died last year, so I don't know if my feelings are related to that. But I know what you mean. People love labelling other people that aren't like themselves. If you don't want a baby, that's the end of the story. There is no but, why etc. The world is full of babies who need love and home anyway. I still can't decide whether I should bring one to this world or adopt a baby who needs a new chance in life.

Sorry to hear about your father. Yes, you should never say never I guess; I think everyone should be like you and really stop to think about what's best for them and their potential children before leaping into anything.

Thank you juno.

I have absolutely no urge whatsoever to have a baby right now. But an 18year old boyfriend would be cute. Especially if he is called Glyn from Big Brother!

Sorry, H, didn't mean to mislead you...my piglet has four legs, black fur and a waggy tail!

happy birthday :)

404- lets have babies together! Lots of babies- who needs men anyway. Lets start a commune and kidnapp 18 year old prime specimes for a spot of fun before we release them back in Bedford!

Free babies for everyone. We can give birth under water in a big bubbly jacuzzi and have a beer afterwards. The Matriarchiate rules!

If women who don't want babies etc. are commiting genetic suicide.. then what about gay men and women?

I do hate it when people are lablled and given a generic reason for wanting or not wanting to do a particular thing with their life.

Its a bit different but take doign a PhD for example.. Most people I speak to when I say I am going to be starting a PhD this October come out with the comments that I just want to doss about being a student again and that I can't hack it in the real world.. It really bugs me!

Tricky, I get that too, just ignore them, they are just jealous.

The best one has to be "tax-dodger" though.

anonGerman, I woke up with a strange dream this morning. I must have been deeply effected by this thread. There were so many 18 year olds around... I felt so old but in a very cheeky way. How embarrassing. It's good my cat bit my toe so I woke up.

Well, 404, biring your cat along to the jacuzzi party- the more the merrier. I also have cats, so they are more than welcome to my commune.

Let's be cheecky together- and don't forget to write down your saucy dreams before breakfast- a little bit of inspiration never hurts (as long as we can release them in Bedford, once we're done).

p.s. Cats are not the only toe nibbling things in my commune.

anonGerman, (we need a smiley that laughs, not just smiles) you make life sound... hmm I couldn't find a word. It makes me wanna give up the PhD and spend the rest of my life in Jaccuzis...