Hey! I suppose it depends on their contribution. If they have contributed to the thesis then I guess it is most likely that they will have contributed to at least some of your journal articles to some extent as well although perhaps indirectly, so I would probably be tempted to put them on. On my papers so far my primary supervisor has gone on as second author, but not my second supervisor as he has had no input on them at all, but on my results papers he will probably be third author as he has helped with recruitment etc. I actually think if your supervisor is quite well known then it's nice to have your name associated with them on your papers! To be honest I wasn't sure of policy on this so I actually asked my primary supervisor about who should go on them as I didn't want to offend anyone! Best, KB

I am just interested- who are you accusing of coming up with different names to fool people?
KB

Hey KC! Yeah, I would say so too, there's no harm in asking and it sounds like you are reasonably familiar terms with her, and as you say, she will probably be quite chuffed that you are citing her work. Also, you could thank her for any helpful comments in the acknowledgements section too. Go for it. And if she has already looked over it and made comments then you will likely have a better chance of getting it through the reviewers with fewer changes to make too! Best, KB

Hi Bigmistake! I think most of us can sympathise with you here- we all make mistakes no matter how careful we are! I think the main thing to think about is how you can either correct the mistakes, or learn from them. Is it possible to contact participants and ask them to complete the questionnaire at all? If they couldn't come to you would it be possible to post it out with a return envelope or maybe set it up as an online questionnaire that people could respond to? And as for the presentation, I wouldn't worry about it- I've done presentations and then realised that what I said wasn't completely accurate or I hadn't got the stats quite right! Try to just learn from it and move on- you shouldn't feel inadequate over it, you are certainly not a fraud. Even the best researchers make mistakes and I guess sometimes that's how we learn! It can be difficult to admit to a supervisor that you've had a glitch but I think it's better to be honest and then you can talk about how you might be able to rectify it. I suppose it depends a bit on your relationship with your supervisor and how they are likely to respond, but I tend to think things are better out in the open and then you can sort it out. You will get over it, keep going! Best, KB

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Haha Dispatcher, well as is apparently normal for you, you have drawn a lot of conclusions about me which have absolutely no basis (horrlible, disrespectful, nasty, bigoted, bullying, pathetic). I have not forced anybody to agree with me, and nor have I bullied anyone. You will see that everybody else has been incredibly supportive of me and the way in which I have tried to deal with the situation, and I have been grateful for their support. You have let it get very personal, for reasons unknown to me, and you clearly feel the need to insult me, but you know absolutely nothing about me and I know that not a single person who knows me would agree with any of your conclusions. Anybody who feels the need to be so aggressive on here clearly has issues of their own to sort out. I think that actually you could apply most of these adjectives to yourself if you looked at yourself closely enough. You have offended many people on here with your responses- just look back at the posts- you will see that nobody else is remotely supportive of what you are saying about me and that speaks for itself. I am not bothered by what you say- I have an amazing network of friends, family, and I enjoy working with people and my lifelong ambition is to help people, and it always has been. I have absolutely no doubts that people see me as a kind, caring, selfless person who is very easy to get along with and who makes a very loyal friend. Take a long hard look at yourself- I think you will find that you are the one who needs to make some changes. I don't know what is behind your nastiness, but you clearly have some issues. I suggest we don't continue to exchange messages on here, because the tone of your messages is very unpleasant and quite frankly I have no time for you. I have never ever encountered such unjustified nastiness in my life from anybody. All the best in your studies, KB

Hey Catcat, I would definitely go for the one that you are most happy with- the last thing you want to do is spend 3-4 years wishing you had taken up the other offer. The main thing is that the PhD is right for you, so even if this guy is a bit miffed, he will probably be able to advertise the position and find someone else to fill it (depending on the funding situation) so you hopefully won't be causing him a huge problem. Good luck, let us know how it goes! Best, KB

Thanks guys for all of your wise words. I think you are right after all- I have been so concerned about causing a fuss and not getting him into shit that maybe I have been too nice and should just not put up with it any longer. Any more of it and I shall speak to my sup and have it over and done with. I think I've been so caught up in the middle of it that I've lost a bit of perspective on the situation so it's good to hear your views on it. Thanks Satchi, I did have a good day yesterday aside from being mildly irritated from our fave person's posts! And verypoor- I think you are right, he probably is taking advantage of my too-good nature, although I don't think many people would call me a weak character! But I do take your point! Cheers all! Best, KB

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Oh look, another assumption based on absolutely nothing. I can assure you I am the most mild-mannered, patient, tolerant person you could ever wish to meet. There is a big difference by being mildly irritated and losing my temper. I lose my temper extremely rarely, if ever. However I think you are the cause of irritation for a number of people on the forum today. Just have a look at the evidence.

And now if I understand you correctly, you are contradicting yourself. Oh, and name-calling. I am of course willing to take different opinions and advice into account- that is why I posted- but yours has been based on incorrect assumptions and a reluctance to consider the fact that your assumptions are incorrect. I have tried to explain myself as clearly as I can and everybody else on the forum appears to have got a good grasp of the situation. I am not sure why you are having such difficulty in interpreting what I have said correctly, or why you feel the need to be so unpleasant to other members of the forum and then claim that the reverse is true, but the forum is here for people to be supportive of each other, not to tear strips off each other and resort to petty arguments, finger pointing and name-calling. I thank everyone again for advice and support but suggest that we just abandon this thread before it descends into even more unwanted exchanges of insults etc with a certain poster. Cheers guys, KB

You know what Dispatcher- your posts are actually just making me laugh right now, I don't think I can actually take anything you say seriously so I'm going to quit paying attention to them. Thanks again everyone else for your advice, best, KB.

Is that aimed at me Dispatcher? Or is that just a general insult to others who have posted on this thread?

Thanks everyone else for your support- I posted because I was really in need of some advice on the situation and it is obviously very awkward to speak to people at work about it. I certainly hadn't anticipated causing this much fuss and attracting so many negative comments from a certain poster which I feel are undeserved in the circumstances. Best, KB

@ Dispatcher- well I think we are just going to have to differ in opinion on that one, I don't have the time or energy to keep arguing about it!

@Natassia and everyone else who replied- thanks, I'm glad that people seem to be agreeing with my actions on this one (with the exception of Dispatcher!). The last thing I want to do is to hurt him any more but equally I am so frustrated with his unreasonable behaviour. I understand that he doesn't want anything to do with me and that is up to him, but it is inappropriate to go around slamming doors in my face and blanking me outright when I ask him a work-related question. It is a difficult situation for me as well as him and to be honest he has been so unpleasant to me over the last 9 months I think I am just as entitled to be upset with him as he is with me, but I cannot bring myself to be so childish. I guess it will blow over, I don't think there is anything else I can do, I just hope for his sake that the sup doesn't insist in getting involved because it won't do him any favours and I don't know how long she will listen to me when I ask her not to haul him in over it. The other people on the team say I should just let her sort him out over it but even though he has been so unpleasant I can't bring myself to wish that on him. Maybe I am just being too nice, I have been accused of that before! Thanks all for your advice, KB

@ Dispatcher- well it wasn't apparent from my thread actually, I never said I brought it up with the supervisor. The whole team have noticed his behaviour towards me and this is why it became apparent to my supervisor that there was a problem- I would never have mentioned it to her as I don't wish to upset or humiliate this guy in any way. He has put a lot of pressure on me to get together with him and I guess he does feel rejected. I am sorry for that, of course I am, but I can't embark on a relationship with him just to keep him happy. As I also said, this was over 9 months ago now, and I can understand that he might not want to see me, talk to me, socialise with me, whatever- I am not trying to force him to do that. But his behaviour is causing difficulties at work and I am concerned that my supervisor will insist on getting involved if he doesn't improve his behaviour. This would be immensely embarrassing for him which is way I am trying to make sure it doesn't get that far. My sup has made it clear that she has no problem with me in any way over this- as I said, other people have complained about his behaviour and attitude prior to this incident. So if you don't like to make assumptions then don't- but you certainly made a number of them in your first post. And as I said in my original post, he is the only guy on the team so it would be difficult for me to go chasing after any other members of team :) Best, KB

Hey SarahLouise! I think everybody is different with respect to working patterns, some people do work for 10 hours a day and others just do a few hours a day but get a lot out of it. So it depends what works for you. I tend to treat my PhD like a full time job but I have definitely found that the further in your are, the more there is to do. During my first year I was sometimes in the situation where I wasn't quite sure what to do next or I needed to see my supervisor before I could proceed with something, but as I have got further into my project I have found that I am never short of things to do and have more than enough to fill up my time, so once you start collecting data you will probably find that you have plenty to do! I suppose the other thing that makes a difference is what people are aiming to get out of a PhD. Some people just want to get through it and others (especially those who want to stay on in research) want to publish, get teaching experience, go to conferences etc, and so have a lot more on their plate! At this stage I wouldn't worry- as long as you are getting your work done to a good standard and your supervisors are happy with your progress then don't stress too much! Best, KB

Hi guys, thanks for your replies. I guess you've backed up what I think really- there's not a lot else I can do and it is up to him to behave professionally. It's just such a difficult situation and I feel bad about it, but I am doing everything I can to make things easier for him and he is determined to make things difficult. I really don't want to have to bring it up with my supervisor- I would be mortified if she got involved and he would be so embarrassed. Even though I'm not happy with how he is behaving I wouldn't want him to have to go through that.

@ Dispatcher- perhaps you need to re-read my post- I did not take the situation to the supervisor at all and I never would have done. She saw that he was behaving very unprofessionally towards me because it was so obvious and she offered to speak to him as other team-mates have previously also put in complaints about his behaviour over other matters. The reason I asked her not to speak to him was to save him from the humiliation. She actually offered to speak to him more than once and each time I asked her not to. And I don't believe I have done anything wrong- you talk about keeping work and pleasure separate, well I actually socialise with a number of people at work because they are also good friends of mine. There are married couples who work in our department. I didn't embark on a relationship with this person because I was worried about the effect it could have at work, so in that sense I think you are wrong again in your assertion that I have done something wrong. And finally- this is an anonymous forum, so I think I am entitled to ask for advice because this is an issue which is concerning me and I wanted the advice from others as I would like to resolve the situation. Plenty of people discuss sensitive issues on here because it is anonymous and I would rather ask for advice here than take it to other members of the team, which would be unfair and embarrassing for him. So I would ask you not to make so many assumptions before replying to my post in the manner that you have.

Cheers all, KB