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Giving a talk somewhere
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:


Hi pm133. I'm visiting and have been invited to give a talk so no guidance on what to talk about - but they know I'm a PhD student so it will be about my PhD work. I used prestigious to describe the place, not a person. I guess I'll treat it the same as one of our departmental meetings and prepare a talk as I would for that.


Yeah I think that is a good approach. Just a general overview of your research would be interesting to them.

I wouldnt use that phrase to describe a person or a university to be honest. Any sort of white-knighting makes me feel very uncomfortable. You have probably guessed that I am miserable git over things like this :-D
Dont even get me started on the farce of impact factors or poster prizes. I dont even agree with the idea of awarding Nobel prizes. Its all errant nonsense. The only thing which matters is the process of discovery itself. Everything else is meaningless time wasting in my opinion.

Anyway enough ranting from me. Good luck with your talk. Thats a great opportunity to network. Hope it works out for you.

Giving a talk somewhere
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
Hello,
I've been invited to give a talk about my research in another (rather prestigious - not sure if that makes a difference) lab. I am trying to decide on which of my PhD studies to talk about. Is the function of such talks generally to get constructive feedback about your work, as well as to disseminate what you've found? I am trying to decide on whether it would be more interesting (and beneficial for me) to present my final study, which is still in progress. Does anyone have any thoughts/advice on this? I know it is up to me; but insight from others who have done this would be useful. Thanks : )


Firstly, no it doesnt matter about the "prestige" of the other lab. I have never been keen to use this kind of word to describe any academic unless they have made life changing discoveries and almost no academic anywhere in the world is doing that.

As for your invitation, presumably they have told you why you have been invited. This will guide you to choose a suitable talk.

Looking dumb in front of my supervisor
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Quote From Fuzzball:
I just had a really awkward and embarrassing meeting with my supervisor where he exposed all the gaps in my knowledge and asked a lot of questions that I didn't know the answer to. And of course instead of just admitting that I didn't know and promising to find out I attempted made-up answers that he saw right through. I have now been sent away with a list of textbooks that I have to read in order to 'understand the basics'. :(


Well you learned a valuable lesson there. Never bullshit people. If you dont know the answer then say so,
As for feeling stupid, I wouldnt worry about that. It happens to the best of us.

Done with PhD, now what?
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I finished my PhD last June and quit academia to run my own company. It is unglamourous but it pays enough to live on (just) and most importantly I have freedom from the tyranny of other people telling me what to do.
Alongside this, I have continued to study, broadening my skills in related subjects.
I doubt I will ever take a permanent job or re-enter academia (turned down two postdocs which were offered to me) but I do harbour ambitions to kick start a tech company hence my continued studying. The thought of taking either permanent employment or postdoc work makes me feel physically sick.

Presentation skills for seminar
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I will help if you put me out of my misery. Did you decide between Psychology, Law, International Fashion and Management in the end as per your previous posts? No wonder you are struggling with creating a presentation. I am on tenterhooks and I literally cannot sleep without knowing what choice you made.

In need of advice from those more mature in their academic careers: post-docs or even PI’s
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I am not one for beating around the bush so here is my analysis. Believe it or not the following is an attempt to help you.

First and foremost stop using Twitter, Facebook and any other "social media" tool. They are all, without exception complete and utter poison. Nobody has anything useful to say and you can't trust anything you see there.

Secondly, stop comparing yourself to others. By definition, absolutely nobody is on the same path as you. Comparing yourself with others is guaranteed to cause you problems. Those darling, happy clappy superstars are going to have to stand on their own two feet one day and no amount of cake, support and partying will make that any more pleasant. In other words, they will have to tread the path you are on at some stage. They cannot avoid it. They are BEHIND you in this regard. You mistakenly think they are ahead of you.

Thirdly, stop using the phrase "superstar" to describe other people. There is no such thing as a superstar, a hero or whatever other word you want to throw around. Humans use these words as excuses for their own shortcomings. Isaac Newton and Einstein achieved brilliance but they were not superstars so I can guarantee these people you are referring to are not either. Have any of them cured cancer or any other major disease yet? Have they changed the world by saving millions of lives? Unless the answer to those questions is Yes, they are nothing more than ordinary academics. Perhaps they are very good but they are not superstars by any stretch of the imagination.

Fourthly, you need to address your fundamental problem of severe neediness. Stop looking to others to provide your mental stability and focus on doing it yourself.

Finally, find out why you are not personally satisfied with your own results. This should be a period of your life where you emerge as an independent researcher, a period of self discovery and wakening ultimately revealing a lot about who you really are. Instead of celebrating this you seem stuck in undergraduate dependency mode.

PhD journey YouTube channel
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That's the same link you gave above but oddly it is now working. I might have made a mistake copying the link.
I make these mistakes more often than I used to. I am getting old :-)

PhD journey YouTube channel
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Your link is broken

Totally fed up
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Quote From Tudor_Queen:
I think that is what I am coming to get my head around from this forum... there is so much variety in how things are, how supervisors/departments etc vary. It's crazy! PhD students vary too, of course! I know that I have been a bit unorthodox at times as a PhD student, and I have to say that most times, although it was taking a risk, it has paid off. If you really aren't happy with something (and you can't just get used to it or accept it), you should diplomatically raise it and ask for change - even if it IS how things are done there/how your supervisor likes to do things. There are TWO people in this relationship, and there should be compromises all around.


The level of variation we see really isn't acceptable. Some variation will obviously be experienced but what we are seeing is really awful.
It goes back to what I said last year - academia as a profession is a complete mess, borderline corrupt and needs sorting out.

Totally fed up
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Quote From Dunham:
[quote]Quote From pm33:


I completely agree with you and my Supervisors handle it the same way. The point was more to point out that this is a common problem and no reason to feel like a fraud. The supervisor of my bachelor thesis didn't get to write a single one of his first author papers,not because he didn't want to, but because that's how his boss handled this. Paper writing was for post docs, PhDs focus on acquiring the data. It was the same for every student. Depending on the Supervisor, there is everything from being completely on your own to "you will not get to write anything."


Agree with this and people like PoppyFlower shouldn't be feeling like a fraud because it's not their fault. The reality is that they unfortunately will tend to feel terrible. It's a real shame because these PhD years should be some of the most rewarding of our careers.

PhD referral
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I would imagine that it may be possible to get an extension if you talk to the postgrad centre.
Sadly the striking lecturers have decided that completing students and final year undergraduates are legitimate targets in their battle with the university authorities. The impact on the immediate careers of both could be utterly ruinous for good students aiming at 1st and 2:1 levels. Of course failing students back the strikes because they are likely to get blanket passes in the exams if any are cancelled (which is a distinct possibility).
You have been caught in the middle of this sandwich of nonsense.
My daughter has been caught up in this as well as a final year undergrad. Fortunately only one of her lecturers was selfish enough to deliberately sabotage her future so she will be fine.

Circulating paper for PhD seminar - common?
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Quote From TreeofLife:
I'm not as particular about ongoing work as pm133 is - in my field it's unlikely anyone is going to pip me to the post with what I'm doing. But I would just want to send the abstract in, so that's what I would do.


To be fair, I have only found a couple of people like me. Most are happy to take input as they go through their work which is presumably why they talk about it.
Personally it is more important to me that my work was as close to being entirely my own as possible otherwise it loses meaning to me. I see it as both maintaining the purity and authenticity of what I am doing and I would rather deal with the struggle than seek help other than on a very rare basis. I usually never value input or suggestions from people whilst I am in the middle of things. That probably also comes from a hatred of not being entirely on top of the material and looking like an idiot until I have written it up and had it peer reviewed. I also don't trust people I don't know. This is my default setting from years of experience of being shafted in a myriad of different ways. Another thing is that i dont get inspired by what others do. I find it stressful and pressurising. I hate being rushed.

Totally fed up
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Quote From TreeofLife:
My supervisor totally rewrote an abstract I'd written once.

I was glad. Mine was written really quickly and was crap. His was awesome - he's a great writer.

So, sometimes it's nice. Saved me having to do it and got me a better abstract than I could have written.


Shriek!!!!! I am getting heart palpitations just reading that. Honestly, if that had happened to me I would have launched a Beyonce level tantrum which would have required a 2 hour walk in the nearby hills, 4 bars of chocolate and a full public apology from my supervisor to recover from. I can say without word of a lie that he couldn't have upset me more if he had ran away with my wife leaving me just the dog and the clothes I was wearing :-D

Totally fed up
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Quote From c_phillips:
Hi,

I suffered from imposter syndrome throughout my entire PhD -it's horrible. I think what helped me is when I realised that everyone has it- people just have different ways of dealing with it. The people who claim to be reading 10 papers a day, go to all the seminars, are always discussing work... a lot of the time these people are even more clueless than we are!

I remember when a guy a few months before me had his VIVA - he was always so cocky, arrogant and a proper 'up his own a**' academic, the kind that uses overly technical words to make himself sound smart - I met him afterwards and he looked completely shell shocked. Examiners had given him a grilling and called him out on a few things and it had really put him in his place. He passed, but I wonder if that made him change his ways...

My supervisor was always harsh on me as well and made me feel like an idiot, he commented on one of my bits of work saying "you do realise you don't work for the daily mirror". It's a struggle. The above point "On a serious note though, a supervisor physically re-writing anything you have written is a classic sign of control freakery." hits the nail on the head. My supervisor used to do this, rewrite stuff and then some of my corrections were to amend some of his wording because they said it was poorly writen!

TL;DR - Everyone is an imposter! :D


That bit about the Daily Mirror made me laugh. I used to get that comment from time to time. For me it would occur right in the middle of some perfectly written academic prose, reeking of pomposity. And then standing out like a sore thumb would be some phrase or word which looked like a tabloid hack had written it for an audience of 8 year olds. A bit of gentle ribbing would then follow which I never had an issue with.

Corrected Thesis Submitted (Major Corrections)
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Quote From TreeofLife:
If they do, I don't reckon they've done the PhD properly :P


Haha yep my thoughts exactly. I don't know anyone who didn't suffer for their art.
My PhD went very well, passed with only a few minor corrections which took 10 days to fix but the process itself did so much damage that I left academia immediately to run my own business instead. I think I could be a good academic at the right university but 9 months on now I still can't face going back to start the postdoc route and have turned down two positions which were offered to me. My confidence isn't there when it comes to working to someone else's timescales and expectations. I still have thoughts about taking the plunge again with a postdoc but then I imagine the pressure again and I get a strong "nope".
Thing is that I am a pretty strong person and I have suffered damage from the PhD. I honestly have no idea how people cope when it all goes seriously wrong. The problems faced by Tudor_Queen and faded07 for example might well have prompted me to walk away from the whole thing. Offering advice is easy but actually having to act on that advice? Totally different ball game. I guess we are strong in some ways and as weak as a lettuce leaf in others. That's what I have learned.