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Applying for a new PhD after having to leave of old one?
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Quote From notsurewhattodonow:
Give your MH as the only reason, no need to mention the other stuff. Then prove you are now stable. They can't discriminate against disability. Go for it, and believe in yourself.


I would strongly recommend you do NOT follow this advice.
Telling any prospective employer that you have any sort of mental health problem is potentially disastrous for your career. You absolutely can and will be discriminated against in my opinion.

PhD depressed partner - how can I help?
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I think he is using the PhD as an excuse but it doesn't matter. The only thing that does matter is that he no longer loves you. After 6 years that is not great but you need to find a way of accepting this and move on. You need to focus on your own needs for the next few months. For what it's worth, I think it would be better not to go to his university. I can't see any good coming from you trying to persuade him to stay or try again in the new year. He has made it crystal clear he wants a clean break. If you truly love him, you will give him that.

Is it possible to link your phD to industry scheme after staring?
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It is very common to find PhD's being funded, at least in part, by industry. Do you have a business in mind?

3rd yeard PhD and I feel hopeless
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What worked for me was designing my thesis into chapters to get the overall "plot". I then subdivided each chapter into a series of headings, subheadings etc until each chunk required no more than 3 to 6 pages and was a self contained unit. I did all of this without writing a single word. Each chunk of a few pages was easier to manage and writing was easy. An additional benefit of doing this was that I kept the plot intact and everything flowed seamlessly. My further drafts were then fairly easy as well. This is a trick I learned as a software engineer. You dont write a line of code until you have broken everything down into manageable pieces. I have seen countless people broken by the experience of writing and thinking as you write. The job becomes overwhelming and the result is an absolute mess.

How to cope with depression
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Yeah sometimes when someone behaves that badly from day one it is better to cut your losses.
At some point, soneone will take a stand, record all of these interactions and start suing these bastards.
There is no excuse for treating people like that in this day and age.

How to cope with depression
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It is pretty clear that this new supervisor is not going to give you what you want. I wouldn't tolerate being shouted at and would seek a new supervisor immediately.

PhD dropout - finding jobs :(
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iwan, you have only had 4 interviews. The cold, hard truth is that you haven't had enough interviews yet to be overly worrying about why you are being rejected. At the start of your career it is a numbers game. You are just going to have to power through this I'm afraid. My hit rate at your stage was about 7 interviews before being offered 1 of them so I'm in agreement with TQ. A friend of mine has just gone through 10 interviews before being offered 2.

Your post here also clears up the questions I had based on your other thread. You have had just one difficult set of questions about your PhD withdrawal and those sort of questions are not systemic in industry. From your last thread it sounded like this was something you were facing everywhere. On that front then it is good news.

As TQ say, you are going to need patience and resilience. There is no sugar coating it.

Non-critical supervisors
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rewt, you don't need to be impolite to ask for things directly.
If your supervisors don't like to rock the boat you need to find a way of making your questions as specific as possible.
For example, if you ask them how you are doing you give them the chance to say "oh fine". If you ask them what 3 bits of advice they could give you to improve you drastically cut their chances of fobbing you off.
As far as the endless data collection is concerned I would ask them directly what data is missing, how this new data would fill that hole and whether there were any other specific concerns they had before publishing. The point here is to get them to acknowledge that publishing is definitely going to happen sometime this year and then getting them to agree a set of actions which, once complete, remove their final barriers to getting your draft sent in to publishers.

All of these actions on your part give an air of assertiveness on your part. It clearly says that you are in control of the process whilst seeking their input as a courtesy. It gains their respect and is more likely to boost their confidence in you that you actually have an idea what you are talking about. They maybe just don't get that confidence from you just yet but it's easily fixed if that is the case.

Revise and resubmit-passed viva exam second time round!
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Quote From Drhannahb:
PM133 we are on the same page with this. Ive always been a little naive about the world (overprotected daddys girl from birth!) but I grew up in quite a tough neighbourhood with a lot of brothers and so didnt realise that women were so toxic until I started working in my 20s and doing the PhD. I expected that in such a tough world run by men, women had each others backs. But everything you just pointed out is something we definitely dont discuss enough. Women try to project the idea of sisterhood but there isnt one, and never has been. Im more aware now in light of my experiences but its good that youve opened up this narrative as it needs much more acknowledgment.


Unfortunately people are terrified of talking about stuff like this because when they do, someone will jump down their throats as you saw above,
My advice to my daughters was to avoid expecting sexism everywhere because eventually you start thinking you are seeing it everywhere; don't be a victim (feminism has a lot to answer for here and both my daughters have grown up to loathe everything it stands for); avoid the chip on the shoulder thing because once that happens, you are dead in the water; Don't expect fairness or equality because neither exist; Beware any man who claims to be more feminist than feminists - they could be simply using it as a predatory move; and avoid an obsession with makeup, hair dye, high heels, tight dresses etc. If you want to be taken seriously, act seriously by cutting out all that self indulgent crap because if you are spending an hour or more each day on this sort of thing, it screams out loud that you value your looks and appearance and need to be noticed above all else. You are just not going to be respected. A few men do this sort of thing as well and I have the same advice for them.

Open Science / "negative results" / a vision of the future...
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Paywall journals will never do this.
What could be done however is for funding bodies to request a full report to be made of all attempted work including negative results which could then go on a free website for others to access.
Funders should demand to know how all of their money was spent. Not just the edited highlights.

PhD dropout resume?
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Quote From Becky1210:
Quote From kikothedog:
Just don't go into lots of detail about any research you carried out. I'm not saying dumb down but I do know of employers binning CV with higher degrees on them for fear they clearly won't stay.


That is exactly what I was concerning, not only I will not be considered at all because of the graduate studies, but I think it's bad if other co-workers knew my background that I might get challenge and bullied. Thanks for the input.


I am not sure I understand you here. Why do you think you would be bullied?

Second masters in related field
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If ypu already have a Masters in this field, why would you get another one?
If your reason is to get a "top" university on your CV, this would absolutely crazy.
If I was hiring you and that was your reason, your interview would be over pretty quickly because it would tell me that your main focus was not on your research but on meaningless sideshow trivialities.

Conference abstract - different results/changes
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Happened to me.
I stood up, introduced my self and explained that recent results meant they would now be getting a more up to date talk.

Mphil scenario
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I think you are coming to the right decision here.
There are vast swathes of people who have or will obtain their PhD who dont have a fraction of the ability, personal awareness, willingness to show personal integrity or willingness to put themselves through critical evaluation in the manner in which you have done. You deserve a lot of respect for that. Do you really want to voluntarily allow those people to outrank you after all this effort?
I wont lie, it is nice to sit back during difficult times and say "I am a Doctor". Only about 3000 of us a year in the UK get to do that. Come and join us. You have worked your socks off and more importantly, you have earned it.

Oh great! I just re-read this with stirring classical music in the background. Now I am tearing up a little. I am a man. This CANNOT be happening.....just....sorry....where are all the damn hankies?....EXCELLENT, I have now woken both my wife and the dog.....

PhD dropout resume?
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Quote From Becky1210:
Hi everyone thanks for reading this. As PhD quitter, I am looking for a real job but at the same time I need a part-time to pay bills. Do I have to write that I am a PhD dropout when applying for part-time position? I am planning to work as cashier at locate store or in a cafe or some kind and I am afraid people will not understand what I did as a phD student and that they might not hire me for this reason. But I don't want to lie either... what is your experience?


Your CV is a personal marketing document. Put whatever you like in it as long as it is true. Omit whatever you want as well but employers will ask what you did during that period