Thanks for sharing, hopefully others will follow your steps.

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I was wondering the same, I really find it a bit strange.

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Cakeman, I'm so glad that you read my post. This is the nicest advice I got, you seem insightful, thank you very much. Your words make so much sense to me and I think I needed to hear that.

I voted for you, if I could I would vote ten times (up). I feel much better and more optimistic now. :$

ah and one thing, I think I couldn't express in a correct way what i have written,
just for clarification, during my writing time I was asking to find job elsewhere not with my group. I only asked for a short contract with my group until I find a job i like, and I have been looking to find a job else where for quite a long time now.

thanks bewildered, I did go to uni workshops, looked at vitae and read times higher education ...etc I have done so much, other option is to go to teach at home, and I really really hate teaching, I want to learn new things in life and I don't want to teach the same thing for the rest of my life, this is another point why I want to find a job quickly.

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Sorry Tenniev but the article in vita website is not very useful

and obviously I can't even express myself, no one understands me as usual

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but, it seems to me a PhD is a punishment for life, you don't seem to be happy ever, there is always something will make you sad , even after graduation :-(

Few months ago, during my writing, I asked my supervisor to find a job etc, but he replied that now I should focus only on writing and when I finish " we can surely find a job for you" so since I really believed in every thing he told me, i stopped looking for a job during my writing period.
Now, I went to school and I was like who do you think is active and good in the area which i like, he replied funding is so low now a days and it is really difficult to find a job now, but don't loose faith, you might hear a job advert soon and it takes a long time..etc.
I mean i know he meant well and wanted me to focus on the PhD, but what about now? I asked if he can give me some work he said he doesn't have funding either.
I started to look for a job in an area a bit different from mine and when he knew about it he emailed me and said that is too different from my background.
well, I can't find a job close to my area because of funding, and he can't offer a job, so i have to do something different and start something even though it is not close to my area, what shall I do, it is been so long now.
Besides, the research am doing is vibrant and there are a lot of groups working on it, I don't understand why am having trouble in finding a job, I have a paper and a review and presentations ...etc, so i have a good cv, but still can't seem to find what I like.
offff am all so confused again
:$

Is it ever going to get easier?
I have no job now and been looking for a long time now, I don't know what am doing wrong!
i mean i finished a PhD, but don't seem to be able to find a job! it is driving me crazy

i was always looking forward to the day when i finish, and now i really miss my work, my supervisor, my subject, i just miss them so much.

I struggled a lot during my PhD, but also there are some parts of the research i liked too, and I feel so attached to, I can't let go of the idea that I will never be able to contribute to the research question I was doing.

Research is difficult and like a maze ...etc but at the same time I miss the challenge and the excitement, I became good at it eventually.

I went to the lab to hand in keys ...etc and I was crying all the way! my PhD was so difficult and I was so lonely in that group but, I miss working in the lab, discussing results ...etc .

Besides i miss working with my supervisor and the excitement of finding something interesting, we had some kind of connection I think, and both worked so hard to solve any problem with the research and our collaboration really give solutions to problems I was facing, it was mutual contribution through discussions and hard work, so I miss that.
another thing making me so sad is my supervisor after all these years (he was always very supportive by the way), he is not very supportive in my job hunting, I mean he does reply my questions, but i was expecting more from him. am used of so much support from him I didn't expect him to ignore me like that, I felt I was very close to him and we worked well.

how much your supervisors helped you in finding a job? did they suggested any group to work with? or suggested any career options? I don't know but, this thing is also hurting me, he didn't even ask what am doing now, or am i finding a job, or just showing a little concern, I find it very sad.
here I am missing working with him ...etc and he knows by the way how much I liked the project and working with him, while he doesn't even ask how I am doing or what I am doing.
To be honest this is seriously affecting me and making me so sad, I know i seem pathetic, but this is how i feel and I can not help it, I feel betrayed somehow.
I know some supervisors who suggested to their student to work with other groups they know well, is that common or rare? I feel so deserted and lonely in this process, with no one to turn to, talk to or ask for advice.

how do you go about job hunting? is it me or it is usually like that?

please note this is my first time I search for a job and am not from UK so our system is different and I'm just starting to learn how hard it is .
Sorry being so depressed, but I need to let it out, it is driving me crazy, all these hard work is for nothing, at least it should be easy to find a job after four years of hard work but, it seems to

I have finished my PhD now, but with no job yet, so I was wondering

how is life then as a postdoc, how different it is from PhD? is it as difficult as the PhD? what are the difficulties, the responsibilities ...etc, let us share :-x8-)

Hello All,
I have just finished my PhD and very glad this forum is here now, OK, I haven't find a job yet and it is so frustrating, so I thought I might ask for some advice, may be am doing something wrong and not aware of it.

Any advice on finding a post doc will be really appreciated :$

That is brillinat, I was always thinking of something like that will be useful. thank you very much, see you all there.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Could_a_tiger_defeat_a_lion
look at the last picture (minute 1:12) 8-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Yhm27GuA0&feature=related 8-)

Read this article and you will understand why nothing happened or happens
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/mortarboard/2009/sep/23/kealey-female-students-perk

it was difficult but, after deep thinking and research I think (although not 100% sure) that is what happens most of the time.

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yes

Hello Loonyloo,
I was one of the victims of love virus too. So I will tell you honestly what happened to me.

my story was he started to notice I have a crush on him and smiled back, so you can imagine how I felt. However, it helped that he started to notice, because he was repeating things to me until i get it :$ and we started to interact by emails, although we never discussed it and nothing happened, but there was a mutual understanding between us and we worked it out.
try before going to his office to decide not to think about him, don't look at him, and only focus on the project,  in time your feelings might fade away gradually, i have to say it was very difficult at times, but knowing that he knows took a lot of pressure on me. I don't mean you have to tell him that you like him, you don't know how he will react, just show it nonverbally and indirectly, see how it will go.

it might not work out for you, but it helped me, and I agree the only cure for this is to find a new crush/boyfriend, cause the PhD is lonely and this can go on for a while depending on your personality and his.
I didn't like him because of power, but I do really think we have a lot of things in common ...etc and he was so kind all the time, any way, now I finished and I have become Dr.someone, what I mean with time you can start to concentrate on your work although you like him.
I still like him but, next month will be the last day i see him :( and hopefully it will be over.
if you change the supervisor you might see him every day and you might start feel sad because of it again.
Every one has some kind of problem with PhD and it is always hell for others too, so our hell is our love.
I know it is so so hard to carry on, but in time you will find your way.

because leaving might be as painful and you might like/miss him more and your project might suffer more, now you deal with one problem.

May be tell him I can't focus well these days because of personal problems and ask him to send you things by email, he might get the hint from your looks any way.

It is risky i know, but am only telling my story, you can judge your situation and see what is the most comfortable thing for you.
This is more common than you think and I have a feeling academics all know about it and actually enjoy it some how, which might help you not to like him that much.

Good luck
:-):-(