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Is it possible to publish a paper based on a "proposed idea"? - Help
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Thanks for the reply.

I've done some of smaller parts of the experiments, which I think could be finished early on; after putting this bit, do you think it's still not a good idea to proceed?

Is it possible to publish a paper based on a "proposed idea"? - Help
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I'm planning to write (actually 30% completion) this particular paper where I would like to discuss a new idea I've invented. This idea will have some experiments conducted in future to show some of its behaviors.

But, would it be possible if I discuss the idea, my future plans for the experiments, some literature, future works on paper and then proceed to send it to a conference (proceeding) before doing the experiments?

I will write another paper for the experiments of course.

What's going to the happen to the money if the PhD is not complete
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I don't quite get the "sponsor/grant/scholarship/etc" concept. Are those free money? If you didn't finish the PhD e.g. half way through or failed the PhD, what's going to happen to the money? Would the student be penalized or something?

Annoyed. Need advice : (
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Quote From Mackem_Beefy:


It's a fact of life that workload can be often shifted onto single people as married people are simply not available to do the work because of family commitments. However, it is wrong that the person concerned should assume this as a reason to do this or you have fewer commitments.

If you are doing the bulk of the work, you should be first author.

However, as I've implied quite often in previous posts, tread carefully with office politics (especially in Universities - is this person your supervisor or other more senior academic or researcher?) that any waves you make don't come back to haunt you. It may be wise to let it be this time and use the experience so you know how to write your own papers in the future.

Ian (Mackem_Beefy)


He's not a supervisor or a senior of mine; I think they are just another researcher trying to milk it : /

Actually, I've shown to the person my indifference towards the situation, consequently the research itself after the situation.
They don't want to put the effort but still want the first authorship and have this dream to publish it in a leading publication.

I think the person is just full of themselves...

Can a conference fold if they have a low paper submission count?
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Quote From Mackem_Beefy:
I've been in the situation where that has happened. Shortly after I completed my PhD (which would have been a good time for me to present), my supervisors were organising the conference (to be held up in Newcastle) and due to location (it wasn't down south) it only attracted interest from a total of ~30 attendees including presenters. It may has well have been in Pyongyang in North Korea for the interest shown.

It was relocated to IOM3 in London so people didn't have to travel beyond London, but by then the damage was done and the conference was 'postponed' and never resurrected.

We'd put in a lot of work (including a paper from me for presentation and proceedings - colleagues similarly) so it was annoying when it finally folded. That said, when that happens, papers can easily be submitted to other conferences and thus the work does not necessarily go to waste.

Ian (Mackem_Beefy)


Wow! : (

I could imagine how annoyed one would feel if that happened to them : (
All the reading, writing, editing, discussions and waiting just wasted like that : (

Can a conference fold if they have a low paper submission count?
T

I think the title says it all.

Also, would the number of paper (after submission to easyChair e.g. paper 10) indicates the number of papers that have been submitted?

Annoyed. Need advice : (
T

Ok, so I'm working with this other researcher on a paper where we agreed that the person will be the first author and I'll be the second.

In my view, a second author has a lesser contribution than the first author but I don't really mind since the paper itself is not within my field. Also, since I'm a secondary author, the paper doesn't have much value to me (professionally compared to a first authored paper).

However, this person seems to want me to do more work than them. I've done the draft of the paper, the setups for the experiments, extract information from other papers, editing and now I've to do some of the analysis, as well as some discussions so that I can pave the way for the person to do the work.

The person said they are busy with other works and they are married, and I'm single, implying that I've more time. The last part made me so annoyed. Come one... throw that in my face? So... I'm single I've to do more work and I wouldn't even be recognized as the main contributor?

Am I in the right to be annoyed here? : (

The table first or the explanation first?
T

Should I put the table/figure/diagram first or the explanations of them first?

Thanks : )

Help! Conference wants 5000 words but I have 7000+ words : (
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After a few days of work, I managed to drop from 7000+ words to the current 5300 words; would 5300 be ok?

At the moment, I'm not sure if the sentences and paragraphs are flowing : /

Do conferences give notification of rejection?
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Quote From MeaninginLife:
Sometimes, they may not accept the paper for oral presentation,
but suggest it to be presented as poster.



Is there a difference between an oral presentation and poster presentation?

Help! Conference wants 5000 words but I have 7000+ words : (
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Quote From BilboBaggins:


Ok that's unreadable. Far far too small font sizes. You need to stick to their guidelines, and not try to work around them by changing font sizes so they are unreadable.


That is from the guideline.

Finished conference; can I automatically assume it has been published in the conference proceeding?
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Quote From HazyJane:
Have the conference proceedings actually been published yet? I wouldn't formally cite it without checking that your abstract is in there.


I just got an email from the conference a few days ago to collect the proceeding at the office. I would think it's published now?

Help! Conference wants 5000 words but I have 7000+ words : (
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Quote From MeaninginLife:
I have just submitted a conference paper which is about 8700 words in 18 pages.
(They suggest 3000 to 6000 words.)
Anyway, they have already accepted it as Oral Presentation. So i feel safe to do it...

But maybe Dan wants to take a risk. just to check if this conference is interested in money? ;)


I don't want to take the risk! eek >.<
Waiting for a paper (to be accepted or rejected) is a misery for me; I don't want to give them a reason to reject me : /


Quote From psychresearcher:
Hi Dan,
I am intrigued to know how you managed to get 7,000 words into 8 pages!.. in fact I was so intrigued I tried it... I managed it by using size 10 font, Ariel narrow and single line spacing. Of course though, the guidance for your particular conference will have it's own rules.
.. Keep to the word counts and adhere to any other rules they stipulate - they are there for a reason - or it will be rejected outright. Academic writing is all about being able to communicate clearly and concisely... it sounds like one or more of your sections is far too lengthy. Good luck! :)


Ha! You're a true researcher! *high five* :D

The Abstract is font 9 Times New Roman. Most of the content is 10. Reference is 8; I think this is why.
Title is 24 though.

Yes. I'm reading, reading, reading (omg, am I reading (and printing!)) my paper again and again to check for any redundant words.

Life as a researcher...

Help! Conference wants 5000 words but I have 7000+ words : (
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Quote From MeaninginLife:
Quote From tt_dan:
According to the conference:

"Guidelines for Research Papers – Papers should not exceed 5,000 words, approximately 8 pages in ACM conference format (available at the site), including figures and references."

Ok, so I have 8 pages (7.5 pages to be precise), but my word count is 7000+ : (
Would this be acceptable? : /


Take the guidelines seriously!
1. Try to reduce words with the use of table AND figure.
A picture is worth more than a thousand words...

2. Reduce some least important references.
Some citations on textbooks may not be really very important.

3. Your supervisor is missing in action?
Or you are excluding your supervisor...


Thank you!

1. They can reject my paper if I exceeded that word count would they? (but it doesn't look like I've exceeded but a simple click on Word's count will show this) : /

2. I'm trying but it is as if when I removed certain citations, some data are lost or continuation is lost : /

3. I think this is my part (not theirs?)

Help! Conference wants 5000 words but I have 7000+ words : (
T

According to the conference:

"Guidelines for Research Papers – Papers should not exceed 5,000 words, approximately 8 pages in ACM conference format (available at the site), including figures and references."

Ok, so I have 8 pages (7.5 pages to be precise), but my word count is 7000+ : (
Would this be acceptable? : /