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Supervisor destroyed my love for science
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Quote From rewt:
Massive congratulations! Well done Dr Evelyn!


Thank you so much!!!

Supervisor destroyed my love for science
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Quote From cucaracha:
Not to defend your terrible supervisor at all, but maybe when dealing with people like this it is more useful to rephrase it from asking if he wants to see your presentation to directly asking what you need from him: 'Please can you look over my presentation before the defense to check my slides?'


The answer would be the same. "nope", I know this person for over 10 years, all kinds of questions formulated in many different ways, a bad supervisor is a bad supervisor, no matter how you 're-phrase' yourself...

Supervisor destroyed my love for science
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Quote From glimmerbat:
I really hate how common it seems to be for some supervisors to continuously undermine their students like this. If anything you're the one who deserves a research career because you're the one with the good ideas. I have a similar situation with my ex-supervisor and I know how intense the frustration can become. I'm sorry you're dealing with this.


Thank you!! I am done, defended my PhD, I will leave and never look back, and I will never work for someone like this again!! Life is happy again!

Supervisor destroyed my love for science
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Haha thank you, that would be so embarrassing! ☺️

Supervisor destroyed my love for science
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Edit: I just asked my supervisor if he wants to see my presentation before the defense, to check my slides, he said: "no"
Great, I feel so supported!

Supervisor destroyed my love for science
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Thank you, I hope we both finish this and find the love for science again or simply find the work that would make us happy again. The thing I am the most scared of is that other scientists will be unable to reproduce my work, or even people in my own lab. Having thoughts of someone else doing the exact same experiment I did - this petrifies me! I am scared one day my supervisor will think I fabricated the data or something like that and I base these thoughts on the fact that me and my supervisor really didn't like each other. If something goes wrong I can precisely imagine what he would think. I am not sure if I will ever be able to let go of those thoughts...on the other hand, I know what kind of person he is and I should definitely not care what he thinks now or anytime in the future when I am no longer here...

Supervisor destroyed my love for science
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Thank you so much for saying this. This experience definitely opened my eyes and if I can see something good in this PhD that would be that it gave the answer about if I want to stay in academia. Definitely NOT! :)

prof treating as technician and delaying PhD
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Is there anyone else being your second supervisor? You need to first quietly explore what are your options and after that act accordingly. Ideal would be that you have another supervisor or anyone close to that function and openly talk about it.


I just cannot believe how many bad supervisors exist in academia, not just exist but thrive. Of course, someone could jump in and say "hey there are a lot of good supervisors that's not true", sorry but I have passed the phase believing there is a good number of them. I am in academia for 14 years and do you know how many I can tell were good in these 14 years? 2, yes, two!! (Sorry I just had to vent here but your story reminded me of so many people having so many problems with supervisors who were never even properly evaluated if they would be a good supervisor, I don't know why to become PhD student you need lots of interviews and all kinds of preparations but zero investigation if someone is able to be a supervisor or not, only how many papers he/she published and that has NOTHING to do with supervision, treating humans and influence their future, academia is disaster).

Supervisor destroyed my love for science
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Hi everyone,

I have a story to share and I need some kind of support and just sharing experience.
I am in my last PhD year (life science), I have published a paper 3 months ago in a good journal and now having a problem with myself thinking did I do the right thing.

I don't know how to make a long story short but I will try. I started my project when I was a Master student and after getting some promising results I continued on this project and collected data that was ready to publish a year or so ago. I realized my supervisor and me have a very different opinion on one of the main conclusions of the paper/data. I really would not like to sound arrogant but I know he is wrong because I can tell he did not read recent publications on the subject and as far as I know he is the only one who has this opinion in the field and I am quiet sure nobody in the field would agree with him. To be clear on this, I strongly believe everyone can have their own conclusions and hypothesis, science is about that and it's the way science progress but this person has conclusions without evidence. And here I am not even mentioning that students in his lab (including myself) have zero support and below zero supervision, he is behaving like doing a PhD is your own thing and he has nothing to do with that.

So...I wrote the paper and he removed half of my data and wrote discussion part as he wanted to write it, with most of the conclusions I do not agree with. I know I cannot graduate if I start to make complaints now and my time and money is gone. So I said ok, and I thought review process will take care of it. Reviewers asked the questions I knew it would be asked and I agree with all of them 100%, some of them really bashed the paper and I totally understand why.

At first submission I was rejected and to be honest I did not feel bad, I felt relief because I knew it is just wrong. Second submission had a set of reviewers that I could tell were not really focused but still they had a good points. My supervisor is a famous name in the field and I think this is probably the reason I got accepted after the revision.

I am literally a week before my defense and I just totally mentally sinked, I cannot force myself to make a presentation because it all feels so fake for me, it feels like a bunch of lies and I am having a serious concerns that I will never be able to continue my career after a paper like this. I am wondering if other researchers in the field will have problem reproducing this data and the entire story told. I am scared and I have zero motivation to continue science, I just want to finish my PhD and never eneter a lab in my life. I was very passionate about science before and at the beginning of my PhD, this person completely destroy all I ever felt for science.

Does anyone have any advice? Anyone ever been in similar situation? I would be happy to hear someone's else experiences and thoughts.
Thanks!