Sorry you've not had such a productive week - hopefully next week will be better :)

I've spent some time sorting out niggly things regarding recruitment and data collection AGAIN - my recruitment has been two years of dead slow and stop and is at the top of my 'one more push and you never have to do it again' list!

The bits of time I've spent writing have been fine and I have a draft chapter more or less ready to send to my supervisors - going to wait til Monday as I always feel a bit mean about sending things through on a Friday!

I'm also a final year (or final semester at the time of this post) PhD student in chemistry. I know I can finish my thesis and defend on time, but my greatest fear is not being able to publish my last chapter (I only have two papers from grad school) and leaving with a publication record that is not competitive in the job market. I'm also light on awards and breadth of technical skills. I guess things could be worse, but right now I'm struggling to maintain focus when depression sets in everytime I try to work.

You have two papers published already! I would be happily celebrating :)

NBurger, that sounds like a horrible experience. I hope your viva goes fantastically well!

Yeah, I have nothing. In my fourth year. Will hopefully have two papers but very little of what I've tried has worked out. I've seen people get decent jobs with poor publication records.

So 7 months to go, writing is going well but my final experiments are going horribly. I'm really worried.

It's not a nice position to be in, writing while hoping things will work out with your experiments. I am still collecting data too - not the way I wanted things to work out, writing up the bits I can while knowing I will need to adjust my argument according to whatever set of results I end up with! I am resigned to having to do some fast work at the end and pull something interesting out of my results, whatever they might turn up.

Sorry to read about data difficulties. I was there earlier in the part time PhD process and managed to scrape through with 'enough' data, after a long time of miserable recruitment and uptake issues.

Currently, I have just had a meeting with both supervisors and now need to re-organise my final chapters. Sounds okay but actually, I can tell it is a lot of work really and I tried not to seem too dispirited with my supervisors after a long day at work followed by the supervision meeting.

I can't face even looking at it today (Saturday) but will try again tomorrow. It's okay, it will happen but I just remember sitting in the meeting room late Thursday afternoon, with a cup of cold tea, looking out at the window as the supervisors discussed this with me (using third person quite often "she needs to do this".." well I think if she does that"), I felt as if I wasn't even there... and thinking as I drove out, (to get caught in the only peak hour traffic my regional city ever gets, which when we have a National football game on in the stadium and we did that evening only I had forgotten about it), and finally got home-'did I ever want to be an academic?'...'who was that person?', 'what happened to her?'. Well onwards and upwards I suppose. Best wishes all...

Hi all,
I am also in my last year (aiming to submit around December). However, I have my annual review in a couple of weeks, and am genuinely concerned that I will be thrown out of the university. So, until then I am working on a paper (the main results of my theses), it's all I can do at this stage. If it's not enough for them, maybe it's time to quit.

Hi, sending lots of good wishes to your side. I hope you'll be OK.

How's everyone doing? I'm working on chapter corrections this week, and hoping to get the next chapter started by the end of the week. I hope everyone had a productive day!

Thanks Hugh.
Working on the paper this weekend, hoping to at least get the results and discussion sections done, as the discussion section will allow me to prove that I'm capable.
Did you manage to get your corrections done and start the next chapter?

That sounds good! I got distracted from next chapter and instead decided to re-write a previous chapter and prepare it for publication. I'm hoping to get some work done on it today too. Wishing you the best of luck with it :)

I'm torn between trying to publish now or finishing the thesis and then publishing. I just feel I'd be much more confident going into the viva with existing publications. But I know its going to take time and energy to do!

I got a chapter draft back this week with a note saying it doesn't need to be seen again - equal parts 'yay' and 'eek'! It would be nice if I could do that with all my chapters but we'll see!

Hugh, my supervisor seems to think that writing chapters/papers in tandem doesn't involve much more work than just writing the chapter, so I'm hoping to have a go at a couple of papers as I'm writing. I'm not clear yet about whether or not the paper needs to be a complete re-wording from the chapter though, which I imagine would be a bit annoying to do.

Very well done chickpea! That must feel amazing :)

I think your supervisor might be correct. I have found that converting chapter to journal paper makes the chapter much more focused and succinct, especially the results and discussion section. The only thing that requires full writing is the introduction and literature review part in the paper, which isn't normally very long.

I am certainly not re-wording, unless I really need to. I think my thesis chapter will have more details, especially in methods and in the results (more results will be recorded), but otherwise, I expect the results and discussion to be the same, even close to identical. I don't see why you would need to re-write it all, both are your own pieces of work on the exact same study.

That's what I thought, but then I wondered if that was too much 'common sense' for academia and if it would be classed as self-plagiarism!

I'm sure it wouldn't, because that's why the papers are acknowledged at the beginning of the thesis, and if that was the case, people would avoid publishing before thesis submission?