the term 'student' is meant to describe someone who generally is not on the 'same level' as you. In my lab at least, the postdocs would refer phd candidates as students. They will go like, ''ahh its normal for him to make a mistake, because he is still a student'. But between PhD candidates, a student is an undergrad.
Does this thing only occur in my lab?
Yeh, but the thing is we are PhD students. Postdocs have graduated and earned their doctorate, whereas we are still in the process. So that does make us students! I tend to refer to undergraduate students as "undergrads", but then I'm a bit particular! Just out of curiosity - how do you refer to yourself and fellow PhD students? On some forms at my uni I know it says "doctorate researcher".
Actually, I consider postdocs to be students as well. I know some academics do so too.
Until you have a permanent academic job, you havent proven yourself to those who matter for your career and therefore undergrads, postgrads and postdocs are all on the same spectrum in my eyes.
Others may disagree.
I wouldnt let any of this bother you to be honest.
That's interesting pm133. I wasn't aware that view existed. In my department, some PhD students have gone straight on to a permanent lectureship. But the postdocs are very highly respected because of their research. Guess it is different everywhere.
According to universities, anyone doing a BSc, MSc or PhD is a student in the UK. These people do not have contracts of employment, so they are not employees. We are all called students at my uni - usually "undergrads" and "postgrads". Postdocs on the other hand, are not students, they are employees. They may be trainees, but they are not students.
The hierarchy of knowledge is obvious once you make the transition - of course I know more than undergrads and MSc/PhD students about my particular field now, so it's easy to think of them as students with a lot to learn, after all, I spend a lot of time training and advising them. I'm sure my former PhD supervisors think the same about me and about their postdocs and junior colleagues. When I think back to how little I knew in the first year of my PhD compared to now...
This is a useful infographic:
http://www.labspaces.net/blog/1444/How_people_in_science_see_each_other_
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