the one I am on is much more fixed, proposal in 4-8 months after registration, transfer to PhD after a year - 2years part time, when you have to have 2 chapters ready, then finished thing 3-3.5 years or up to 6-6.5 if part time. The first bit is where I'm at at the moment, altohugh I'm waiting on my supervisor to get back with info onthe ethics bit which I have sent. The thing is I virtually had to complete this stage before I could even register - area is a bit, no, very, controversial so they needed not the usual 2 sides, but 18 pages of information, and a rewording so they didn't quite get what the thing would really be about