I got my NOC but after alot of Drama and reaching upto higher authority . They signed it and handed over me my invention but my supervisor was very angry. They signed it with extremely angry faces. Now as I have NOC to patent. And I can now even publish. I am confused if I should write my supervisor name ? Cause what if I write their name and they get angry. The relationship is quite under strain now after NOC. So I want to write their name but am scared if they will make issue or not? Or should I publish it solo?

You should file the patent before you publish anything. Once you publish, there is no longer any IP you can protect. Contact your tech transfer office. This patent may be your life line for your career.

Regarding publishing, if you include your supervisors they will have a voice in the manuscript and may make life hard for you to publish still. If you don’t include them they could report to the journal and still make life difficult for you.

Either way you no longer have any relationship with your supervisors and your journey from here is a solo one. Don’t expect a good reference letter from them so start thinking who else can be your referee. Maybe use that patent to approach companies that may want to hire you.

I got NOC to patent it from them by approaching higher authority who made my university give me NOC. Now I want to publish it. So what should I do? If I don't write supervisor name you said will make mess. If I write supervisor name would make mess. Either ways you saying will make trouble for me. I cannot just leave my hard work unpublished for lifetime no? I have to publish

I got NOC to patent it from them by approaching higher authority who made my university give me NOC. Now I want to publish it. So what should I do? If I don't write supervisor name you said will make mess. If I write supervisor name would make mess. Either ways you saying will make trouble for me. I cannot just leave my hard work unpublished for lifetime no? I have to publish

It’s a tough one. I can’t see how this would proceed smoothly.

Have you written the manuscript yet? Maybe you could reach out to the supervisors and ask them for feedback or contribution by a fixed date. If they don’t get back to you, you could choose to publish alone.

Yes I have written 3 myself alone, along with cover letters . It's ready to be submitted. Is it compulsory to write supervisor name ? Is it mandatory by publication even if you wrote all yourself. What contribution will I mention of My supervisor or co-supervisors in manuscripts written by me alone?

I think it's very very unfair if student project own idea, they self funded it, project done in another city and didnot use university any machines, student wrote all thesis and manuscript alone and gets to win patent case ownership even. And higher authority makes university give you NOC. Yet student cannot publish own hardwork cause of supervisor. That's so unfair . Please educate me where have I been wrong in all this? Maybe am missing out and you can educated me on my mistake in all this. Also nowadays every manuscript require solid contribution by each individual. When I googled its said , supervisor name not mandatory. But still kindly educate me on all this,if am unfair or not.

Firstly, if you intend to patent your work, you should retain and consult a patent attorney right now. Certainly before you publish anything, or else your own publications may become novelty destroying for any subsequent patent applications.

As far as publishing your work is concerned, it seems you have made up your mind in any case. You claim that your thesis supervisor had no involvement whatsoever in your research - a claim which we have to take at face value, although highly unusual. Also, from the various posts which you have made it seems your academic career is pretty much over in any case. So what further harm could you cause by including or excluding anybody from the authors' list of your submissions?

In any case, these are questions which you should discuss with the people concerned (notably your supervisor) and not random anonymous strangers on the Internet. Nobody on this forum can decide whether your supervisor will be angry at you forever (which is likely the case already).

I want to know where did I went wrong? Wasnot I justified to keep ownership of my own project when it's self funded, no instruments of university were utilised. I payed everything from my own pocket. Did everything alone in another City and in end supervisor just had to check and there was no mistakes and approved immediately for defense. So just how can I give them ownership. Policy even allowed students at my university to be owner of self funded research project. Even if I had transfered ownership. I was at huge loss in that case as well. Plus how does it end my academic career when I am not employee at their university even?

As tru already said, no reference letters = no academic career. Hard to image you getting good references when so many bridges were burned.

I already have academic Job and previous work experiences from academics from university where I worked as lecturer. Right now working as Assistant Professor in College. Plus my one co-supervisor of post graduation gave me very good reference letter. Along with other reference letters from my work experiences. Just supervisor reference might not be there. So would that even matter if I seek phd abroad. Cause at the moment am done with mphil in own country. And plan to apply for phd abroad in future. As I said earlier I spend all money on my project from own pocket and project wasnot even Done in university using their instruments. My supervisor didnot even understand my project until end as my field of project wasnot their domain of speciality . And they were asking for ownership of my project . If I hand over my own invention what was there left for me. Just a degree piece of paper wasting all my money to pay for project myself . If I was wrong the higher governing body over my university wouldnot have taken action ever to make them give me NOC ever.

You have every reason to pursue ownership. However you should have thought about what you want to do with it once you have it and all the consequences of the action.

In case you have not figured out yet, Academia is very much relationship based. It can be very unfair, but choosing of collaborators, postdocs , awardees can be heavily influenced by your supervisor and who else they or you know. The reference letter from supervisor is important unless you have other established Prof vouching for you. And if word gets out that you are a trouble maker in the academic sense, even if you do have papers, no one will want to hire you as a researcher. That’s what it means by potentially career ending. Maybe this patent here could help you in the absence of any letter of recommendation. But for your sake, I hope you do have an excellent referee (not supervisor) in place because there is no way your supervisor will help you after you humiliated them, even if you think you have every reason to do so.

So file your patent, then publish your papers. Consult your TTO and patent attorney to file the patent. You can’t gift inventorship if the supervisors did not contribute to the IP. Re your papers, you no longer have a relationship with your supervisor so whatever you do is challenging. No one can decide for you, but even if you decide to publish alone, you can’t break a relationship that’s already broken.

Oh wow, you can get a job as lecturer and assistant Prof with just MPhil???!!! Whichever country you are in, that’s such a low bar to employment in your sector. I thought you already have your PhD. That’s the minimum requirement in many countries for those positions.

So you don’t have reference from primary supervisor but your secondary supervisor is happy to give you references? Highly unusual. Usually all the supervisors band together.

So maybe having your co supervisor’s support is enough for your future PhD and career? No one really knows until you try to apply.

Yes, in college yes not in university level. So am working at college level. Yes cause I hired 2 cosupervisor and 1 supervisor. My first supervisor (later cosupervisor) didnot understand my project but let me do it as I had to shift to another city for its data collection. In that city I hired a cosupervisor (who a professor and I worked with him and he decent human not greedy) . Later when I returned to own city. My supervisor didnot understand how to check my results. So I went to this other supervisor (who wasnot my supervisor nor cosupervisor) and hence he asked me that I'll check result only if you make me supervisor and make your supervisor -cosupervisor. So as everything was done by me ,even results and I just needed it to get checked. I agreed to it. He checked and approved there were no mistakes. I wrote my discussion and conclusion and gave defense successfully. My new supervisor and old supervisor (later cosupervisor) were not specialised in my topic. However the cosupervisor I had hired in other city was specialised in it. Now I plan to go abroad for PHD in future. I have amazing references from my work places as I am very hardworking as a student/lecturer/doctor. So got amazing references from all clinical professor's as well

Sorry, there are soooo many things here that are obviously lost in translation. So you're a doctor, as well - aside from being a professor with an MPhil? Were you an MD already before starting this MPhil?

You "hired" multiple supervisors and then somehow swapped them around at will? And what does your "own city" or "another city" have to do with any of this?

Your underlying claim seems to be that you performed the research entirely independently. So one would have to assume you are running your own privately funded lab and autodidactically taught the lab technology to yourself? You also proposed the thesis topic yourself?

Sorry, this case is somewhat hard to follow, frankly. Maybe cultural or linguistic differences, who knows...