Hi all
Thesis submission without supervisor approval is possible BUT any one do it before and what is the result ??!!
because my supervisor always say that

"I am busy with classes and thesis's . So I Will focus on your work when I have time."

and I just re-register for another semester and wait her approve to re_submission for second time because she also did not read it for first submission
I'm so sad and desperate. I am lost in my life and I really need advice

I understand now why you wanted to access your external examiner's report. I'm not sure of the legalities of submitting without supervision but it seems risky. Could you ask your Head of Department to read your thesis with a view to seeing if he/she thinks it's ready to re-submit? As far as I remember you passed your viva, albeit with major corrections. If you do these major corrections, who is going to sign off on them, or do you have to do another viva? I can't see it just being up to the student to re-submit. I think you need to get good, sound advice from your university, either from your Head/Chair of Deparment or else from the Head or Dean of Postgraduates at your university.

Think things through before making any hasty decisions.

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Thanks for the reply ..(up)(up)
In my case (master by coursework and dissertation )there is no viva just dissertation examination ,so i need to re-submit and re-examination to my work.

:-(

Hey Orch, I think you should contact your department for a handbook. There are ways to go about these things and they are usually on the Rules and Regulations (usually in PhD candidates' handbook).

From a Toxic viewpoint:  It may also be possible to CC in your head of department and head of graduate school to an email to your supervisor, so at least if it gets to that point where you need to dispute decisions, you can gladly point your fingers at your 'non responsive' supervisor. But do not do this until you have told your supervisor that the next email you send will include these people.

Best DG x

Thank You for All this Helpful Information,I will try to be patient:-s

Hi Orchid,

what a really tough situation to be in. All credit to you for your patience and persistence so far as well-especially given all that you have done so far.

However, I would be wary of submitting without your supervisor's 'look over' if this is the second submission of your Master's thesis-is this right? Especially as you do not have access to the examiner's indepth reports?

You submitted it some months ago without much final supervisory help and the examiners wanted some major revisions. And they've given you six months to do these changes before another examination of this thesis? What I'm really puzzled over, is if they did this, surely they gave you guidance as to what revisions you need to make? (Sorry that this is all questions-just trying to work out what is going on from this and your earlier post-but feel really annoyed on your behalf).

However, it seems that whatever information you were given, it hasn't been clear or particularly helpful. That is why I'm thinking that (even though you may be incredibly frustrated, angry and upset with your supervisor) you still need them to support you through this process at this point in time.
I have had a Masters situation with some similarities-still waiting for reports and hoping I don't need major revisions). I really wanted to submit without the supervisor as the delays seemed really endless, but realised how much I needed her guidance.

What I did, (I felt like reporting to higher people but I didn't-I actually have a really nice and talented supervisor but one who is/was equally busy). However, I did discuss this with the postgraduate advisor (an admin person), who listened without judging either my supervisor or me, and then told me what the processes were to help me stop panicking. She also sent very nice and low key prompts to my supervisor, who did get round to looking at the thesis and signing off on it. But it operated on a very different time-line to the universities " official" timeline.

If you have to re-register for this semester, do it...it may seem very unfair, but is probably more common (across the board-even if you don't know any one personally who has had this experience) than you think and it will give you the time to work with your supervisor on making sure this submission of your thesis has been looked over properly before final submission and reexamination.

Do talk to whoever is there to help you, like your postgrad advisor or admin assistant-they do understand how upset students can be when this happens and usually have an idea about the next step you can take and they also understand that you don't want to cause trouble but that you want to know what your options are. You probably also do need to be patient...it is hard, but you have invested much time, effort, emotion and energy into this project and you deserve to give it the best shot.

It sounds like she will read it and give advice (from your quote) but expects a few weeks to do this-which seems really hard...so what do you do in the meantime?? I went over minor little things-but given lots of time to review it-I also noticed some bigger issues, started working on them and the supervisor was pleased that I had starting fixing them already when she started giving me feedback. The process does finally end...although it often feels as if it never will and it also feels to some extent, that everyone else is going fine and it is only 'you' who is going through this. Don't let these feelings spend too much time in your head though; many of us go through similar processes and situations and we come out of the other side okay and a bit stronger for the experience. However, I would still follow up on getting some feedback as to why your thesis needed re-submission so that you can work on these aspects.

Hi Pjlu,
I hope that you get some good results
Thank you everyone!
Now , I am very worried and scared, and unable to sleep at nights because this fact:
Me and two other students got the same result Major correction
Moreover, when any from staff or the dean or others lecturer at faculty know  my supervisor name, they give me that feeling I'm in trouble and she is not good supervisor.
Becuase there is many from her students they totally failed in thesis examination result. I heard that she was got many warning from the faculty.
I Didn't say any a word UNTIL now because she very kind to me.:-):-)

Orchid, is there anyone else who can read your thesis for you and offer guidance and help? Maybe one of the other faculty members or a student friend (one who is doing a phd or tutoring or something for example?). Or is there a student centre at your university which offers this sort of support? Many people have other readers who help them through the writing, editing, submitting part as well as their supervisors-it is fairly common. It doesn't mean you are going behind your supervisor's back. It might be a good back up to have at this time. Thanks for your best wishes and I hope that you get some support and some sleep as well!:-)