Signup date: 01 Aug 2010 at 10:24am
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Hi chaps,
I have been declared 'appointable' which is the first step - as pointed out this does not guarantee that I actually get appointed as student numbers may be insufficient. Also, although they tell you whether you are 'appointable' or not, they don't tell you where you are ranked on the list with other 'appointable' persons. I won't know whether I get a group until mid-September. I asked about the other regional centre and they said to go ahead and apply for it too as it doubles my chances of actually getting allocated a group.
I won't lie though - the interview was pretty damn tough - you know the formal kind that feels really hostile and there are 'trick' questions? So it is a terrible thing to put yourself through if there is no real chance of the numbers being sufficient even if you are appointable.
I think it is a good system for them because they have talent on tap - but a rubbish system for the interviewees as you don't know until the last minute and can't plan. Even if you do get appointed there might not be the numbers the following year. They say that as the figures stand they need one tutor - but if I don't get appointed I won't know if that is because the numbers didn't transpire or whether someone is ahead of me in the list. I would rather know where I am ranked. All very frustrating.
They ARE a fantastic organisation to work for IF you can get an appointment because their staff training is second to none, but all the not knowing is miserable.
Thanks to you all and I'll keep posting.
Oh dear Matilda - yes that would be just my luck and I am really sorry to hear about your experience which happened not once but twice! I hope you got something else to compensate as that must have been gutting. I can honestly say that my trust in HE recruitment is now very low putting your story along with mine.
But if anything it has made me determined to apply for the other centre as well and to ask the question of what the current registration numbers are - because it is a level three course it is all continuing (rather than new) students so they should be able to predict closely even though it is a brand new course.
Thanks all so much as it has really given me a lot to think about. I have done a ton of preparation for this interview and I am confident it will go well - but it just seems that even that is never enough in the current fiscal regime.
Best to you.
Oh gosh guys, now you are making me nervous! I won't lie - if I don't get it I'll be inconsolable and don't know how I'll pick myself back up. I recently had a (successful) permanent lectureship interview for which the funding was cut before I could be appointed and I just feel doomed, as if there is always another hurdle - you can have great application, great references, give great presentation and interview but for some reason the job still doesn't happen - like in this case maybe even if I am appointed not enough people will sign up for the course (another reason why I want to apply to two centres). With the post that wasn't I also turned down another interview for a permanent lectureship which was less suitable so I was especially gutted. It's like I back the wrong horse.
OU are weird about how they advertise the external vacancies and I found the advert by chance - not through their main site but through googling 'teaching open university' which takes you through to a different version of their vacancies site. It seems to change every week or so and have deadlines that are not related to the normal recruitment schedule - this post I'm going for was a re advertisement in fact.
Yep! The research one is yet to do is always way more interesting than the research one is actually doing. I have written 4 not quite off topic but definitely only loosely related articles on my hobby research during the last 18 months. I kid myself by saying that it is all good for publication profile and interdisciplinary research etc, but the truth is it's just another avoidance tactic. Don't get me wrong, I still love my main research but I'm ready to move on - except that I haven't completed yet! All the job hunting and article writing and research proposals is good and well but it is not getting my PhD finished for me.
Does anyone here teach for the OU and if so how many presentations were you allowed to teach in the first instance? The wording is very slippery (and not anywhere on their website - only on the interview materials they send) because it says "If you have attended multiple interviews for the same course and are offered an appointment in multiple centres then you MAY have to choose which of the appointments you take up. For new ALs who have yet to complete their probationary period you can only teach one 60 course or two 30 point courses."
I have an interview for a course in one regional centre but the course is also now advertised in another regional centre and I would like to teach in both. I am extremely well qualified for the course with relevant Master's and PhD near completion (ie October submission) as well as 6 years relevant HE teaching experience and 15 years secondary teaching experience (also relevant to this particular course). The course is a version of an honours level course I taught this year in a big name university for which I have a really cracking reference.
Furthermore I don't see the post as a stopgap or interim position ie it is something I will continue to teach should I get a full-time academic post because it fulfils part of my interdisciplinary research interest that is not easily addressed within a single subject field. I am also really excited to get in at the start because this is a new course in a developing field.
I suppose what I am asking is 'Do OU treat everyone the same in their first year teaching for them?' or do they take account of your experience (ie could I make a case to teach in two centres?). Do multiple presentations of the one course fall outwith their teaching guidelines?
I will of course ask this question to OU but I don't want to count my chickens and appear as if I think it is my right to expect to get the job or to special treatment. The wording is just so unclear and it is not mentioned anywhere else in their materials.
Thanks to anyone who can help or offer their perspective on OU teaching
Thanks for any help on this!
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